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[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Does not protect you from weather
Cannot haul anything
Takes forever to get anywhere

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Thats what your jacket is for.

You can get bike trailers.

Infrastructure issue rather than the bike itself.

What are you hauling anyway?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What are you hauling anyway?

Robotics to Jita

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh Jesus. I haven't touched that beast in years. Don't think I've seen a reference to it in about as long

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was away for 10 years but got sucked back in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

They say that you never truly quit the game. I played for a week or two when COVID started, before that it'd been maybe a year or two. So ~5-6 years with little to no contact.

I think that means I'm due.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even online still going strong

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Indeed it is :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I have winter cycling gear, btw. It doesnt make it not suck.

I'm not hauling a car, motorcycle, toolboxes, tires, materials, etc. with a bike trailer.

My bad for having a job, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh no, it can only do 99% of my transportation needs instead of 100%

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Ironically also the reason people shit on EVs with 200 mile real world range

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

More like 10% but you do you fam

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wear a raincoat or winter jacket, much cheaper than a car.

I have a trailer that can hold 40 kilos. That's enough for anything I need regularly. I rent a moving van for the once in a couple year big item hauls.

Cars spread things apart making places take long to get to not using a car.

When you say takes long to get anywhere by bike, it is a self report you don't live anywhere meaningful with anything fun around you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wear a winter jacket

This reads like someone who doesn't live somewhere that it gets cold

it is a self report you don't live anywhere meaningful with anything fun around you

What a weird thing to criticize someone for

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Living on the border with Canada, I tell you now that I bike during the winter. It is in fact as simple as wearing the right layers. Even some of the coldest regions in the world have bike commuting.

I don't think the second part is a criticism. It's pointing out that you live in a place who's infrastructure has been completely fucked by car-centrism. Were it designed with walking, biking, or even just public transit of any kind as a priority, the distance between points would actually be short (public transit benefits from shorter distance between stops by having shorter routes Which cuts fuel and maintenance costs).

In order for cities to have changes in their structure, mixed-use zoning needs to be allowed, along with various other reforms to current infrastructure law - laws which disinsentivise driving (car-centric people label it as 'punishment' when it's more just revokal of massive amounts of privilege). It takes several decades, but overtime city footprints would shrink and become much more walkable - and safer - and more quiet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Except that youre blaming the victims of car-centric city designs. Good one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what you're meaning by "... blaming the victims of car-centric city designs." Is this going back to the comment before saying it's a "weird thing to criticise someone for."

Since you didn't quote a portion of my comment, I have no idea which portion you are saying is blaming people for car-centric city design.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"You should ride bikes, bro"

"It sucks"

"Well yeah, your infrastructure is designed for cars!"

That about sum it up?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I think you've misenterpretted these convos. I am not blaming those people for not riding a bike, I literally pointed out the amount of effort and time needed to make their cities more walkable. That's not coming from a place of judgment, I'm just disseminating information I've gathered over time.

The post explicitly states "if entire cities were designed around [bikes] the way they are with cars, everyone would be fine with it", and I think it's important to keep that in mind.

The top of this comment thread states bikes don't protect you from the cold, among other things. The following comment says just to wear a jacket. There's a reply stating the guy saying 'wear a jacket' hasn't lived in cold climate. I then chimed in stating that in-fact, you just need the proper layers to bike in winter.

All of that above is one convo going on parallel to the other.

During this, the original comment also says bikes don't get you anywhere. The second person points out that the original commenter must live in the middle of nowhere, away from anywhere important. That's why I stated I don't think the comment was criticism. I think its just observation.

The reason someone can be in the situation is because A) they live rurally, which is a minority of people globally - or B) they live in/near a car-centric city. I detail the work they'd need to do to change that, and they changes they would have to allow. That isn't blaming them, it's giving a roadmap.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

This person is seriously shitting on me for living 20 minutes from my job. What an moronic ciriticism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Biking during Finnish winters sucks for sure and bike and public transport is slower than car, but it's a tradeoff. Owning a car here is fairly expensive and has downsides of its own.

For hauling bigger stuff I can rent a van or see if any of my friends with one are up to it.