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Hello everyone!

I have a thinkpad t420 (without a discrete gpu) and I am hitting up to 95℃ on a full cpu load (for example, writing large files to a zstd=15 btrfs filesystem on a LUKS volume), even in my very cold room (I am wearing three sweaters as I'm typing this). Everyday tasks like watching videos bring me up to around 65℃. I got this laptop second-hand, but pretty sure the former owner has never repasted it.

So, is it a good idea to replace the thermal paste to improve cooling? If so, what thermal paste should I go with? I have Arctic mx-4 on hand, would that be an improvement? What about liquid metal?

Also, for my own understanding, I would be grateful if someone answers these questions: does thermal paste "dry out" over time? Is there such a thing as a "bottleneck" when it comes to cooling? For example, could it be that upgrading the thermal compound won't yield lower temps, because the heat pipes or the fan are the bottleneck?

Thank you in advance.

EDIT: I disassembled the laptop, cleaned out the fan/finstack with a hair dryer (on no-heat setting while holding the fan in place), cleaned out the old paste with ear swabs and rubbing alcohol (although isopropyl alcohol would have been better), and applied a fresh portion of arctic mx-4. I tightened down the cooler, then removed it again, covered up a little corner of the die that didn't get covered, and tightened the cooler down for the final time. Now I don't go above 78℃ even when doing an all-core torture test with mprime (in the same cold room). Thank you to everyone that helped!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Use the thermal paste you have, and yes thermal paste does dry out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay, good to know. Thanks! Kinda tempted to go for liquid metal tho, just for the meme.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can definitely do that, but if it makes contact with anything other than the IHS you'll be buying a new laptop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Pedantic note, but most laptop processors, including mine, don't have an IHS. Most laptop processors, even socketed ones, are just a bare die making contact directly to the heatsink/heatpipe. As far as I know, the only time you'd find an IHS in a laptop is in those monstrous "desktop replacement" machines that take desktop processors.

But anyway, thanks for warning me!

For anyone in the future that stumbles upon this thread: since there's no IHS (integrated heat spreader), you have to make absolutely sure that the thermal paste covers the ENITIRE die area. Modern processors have a higher thermal output per unit area than the average kitchen stove, so even if there is a tiny spot left, it can cause damage. (source: heard it on Linus Tech Tips)