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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Women seek security and sustainability

This is a huge overgeneralization and sounding like it might have come from incel thinking, do you have a source to say how many young women are primarily looking for that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Call it whatever you want, I guess but it seems like you're projecting. There's nothing controversial about the idea that women seek security or that men are biologically attracted to young women.

You're asking for a source which is funny because you're the one making the counterargument. I'd expect you to have provided something. I imagine that with your bait insult(incel, lol, I'm married but okay) you're not really looking for an intelligent discussion here. But on the off-chance you are, here you go.

Article https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/201907/do-women-really-prefer-men-money-over-looks

One of many studies referenced in the article

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704919852921

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That wasn't an insult, it was my best guess as to where that idea came from. It's also not calling you an incel, just that I suspect incels came up with that idea and it somehow got to you (one potential way is that you are in incel, but again, that's one way), so I'm annoyed you misinterpreted my careful wording.

I read that study you referenced, and it found that ~50% of both men and women rate "Good earning capacity" between 1 (desirable) and 2 (important), the averages being ~1.1 and ~1.6 respectively. This study shows that women care about it more than men, but, reading the results, they care somewhere between "desirable" and "important", discrediting your idea that "Dating in your early 20s is basically impossible because your female counterparts aren’t looking for guys that are just starting out or figuring out who they are". Looking at their box and whisker plots, it seems you'll find significantly more women than men for whom bad earning capacity is a deal breaker, but that does not mean that most do.

Is it a factor when dating? Yes. Is it an overwhelming factor on average? This study says no.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So your argument is based on opinion yeah?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What argument do you mean? I was suspicious of your claim, based on my biases of course, but I used your study to back up that suspicion. I'm not making an affirmative claim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you're just babbling on then? You asked me to source my argument and argued it was incorrect while insinuating I'm an incel, yet you provide no source of your own other than your opinion. This is why I don't reply half of the time. You effectively wasted my time. Please don't argue someone else's claims unless you're prepared to offer more than your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You must be trolling, I've said I didn't call you an incel yet you repeat it, and I cited your own source to disprove you yet you call that opinion. What source am I supposed to cite if not the very one you used? I'm merely arguing the null hypothesis, I don't have to provide a positive claim/source, only dig holes in yours (which I did).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"yeah your study supports your idea but not as much as you think"

Great analysis there, you really opened up my mind

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It doesn't though, please reread.