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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Grazing is terrible for the environment and crops are specifically grown as animal feed. It wouldn't be destroyed or burned because it wouldn't be grown at all. Additionally there are plenty of other uses for inedible plant waste other than feeding to animals.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Grazing is terrible for the environment

Why do you say this?

and crops are specifically grown as animal feed

Generally speaking, this is untrue. A small number of crops are grown as animal feed, but it's a waste of money to grow human edible crops for a majority of the animal feed cycle. As I said above, 86% of animal feed is inedible to humans, and a majority of the remaining 14% are dead calories.

It wouldn’t be destroyed or burned because it wouldn’t be grown at all

I guarantee nobody is backing off on growing corn, wheat, rice, or soy right now, even if we suddenly stopped letting anyone eat meat.

Additionally there are plenty of other uses for inedible plant waste other than feeding to animals

Are there? Care to cite which uses exist for feed that are better than the efficient process of using livestock to create some of the objectively highest-quality human-edible calories that exist in nature?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Devastates local ecosystems

It's not untrue food is literally grown to feed animals

Yes but I'm talking about the food grown to feed animals

Biofuel and compost

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Devastates local ecosystems

Nope

It’s not untrue food is literally grown to feed animals

Actual nope.

Yes but I’m talking about the food grown to feed animals

So, you're talking about fiction

Biofuel and compost

Whatever that means.