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The animator then asked Maher what the “downside” of “getting a vaccine” was, which caused the comedian to go on an anti-vax tirade.

“The fact that you the fact that you don’t even have a clue what’s the cost of getting a vaccine that you don’t know the answer to that. You completely want to shut your eyes to the fact that there are repercussions to all medical interventions, including a vaccine, all vaccines,” he ranted. “They come, they say side effects, just like every medication does. You can see it in the literature. They can’t write it on their back on the vaccine. So you have to dig them. And of course, there is a vaccine court because so many people have been injured.”

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Less effective for the elderly compared to what?

Compared to their younger counterparts. Older people have weaker immune systems. So prepping the immune system against a virus isn't as reliable. You can be vaxxed and still get sick. And even milder illnesses can have long-lasting effects.

"The data suggests that boosters and updated vaccines are more important for older adults. "

Precisely because their immune systems are weaker. But at least as important as vaccinating the elderly is vaccinating the aid workers and family members in regular contact with them. An 8-year-old with the flu can absolutely deliver a death blow to an ailing vaccinated elderly relative. One of the leading causes of death in NYC, during the height of COVID, was sick nurses showing up for duty and passing the disease on to whole communities of elderly residents.

Children are the second most important vaccination group after the elderly

Because they're messy bitches more likely to fail at basic hygenie.

Without a functioning one, a vaccine isn’t going to help much

Yes. Exactly.

That doesn’t work with highly mutagenic diseases

Highly mutagenic diseases are harder to vaccinate against, which is why we have annual flu shots and multiple flu shot variants. Also, why we can't vaccinate against the common cold.

Nevertheless, getting healthy people vaccinated when you can helps insulate people with weaker immune systems from coming into contact with the disease from the start, which improves the survival rate for everyone involved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think we are nearly in agreement with one another. Vaccination (of all kinds) is important for as many people as possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Absolutely. My concern is that it is often treated as an individualist problem (if you don't want to get sick then getting vaccinated is your responsibility) when disease spread is a more complex problem (vaccines have variable effects by individuals and exposure risks rise as fewer people are vaccinated).

Vaccination cannot be left to personal conviction. It has to come as a form of general public policy. And, as a result, it has to be publicly researched, funded, and distributed, rather than left to the whims of individuals.