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Me personally? I've become much less tolerant of sexist humor. Back in the day, cracking a joke at women's expense was pretty common when I was a teen. As I've matured and become aware to the horrific extent of toxicity and bigotry pervading all tiers of our individualistic society, I've come to see how exclusionarly and objectifying that sort of 'humor' really is, and I regret it deeply.

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[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh god I've got so many.

My latest one is remembering that you can't really fight fire with fire, unless you're being extraordinarily strategic about it. Attacking bigotry for instance, simply makes it stronger, as it feeds off strife and fear themselves. Remembering why Michelle Obama said when they go low, we go high. Not out of any great preference, but out of a lack of viable alternatives in her situation.

You can't actually "fight" it. You can exclude it. You can corral it. You can trick it into running itself off a cliff. But you can't actually destroy it by combating it directly, because it feeds off the combat, just like Trump does. You have to outmaneuver it.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Like the black musician who befriended all those kkk members and got them to retire their hoods and leave the kkk. It wasn’t by been mean and condescending he was very nice to them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

There's a WBC member that was being groomed for politics and he was turned by two Jewish guys while he was in university. They killed him with kindness. He wrote a book about it and there's a great NPR interview with him and he talks about it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... now that I've gotta google... lol

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I routinely attack bigots on social media. I enjoy writing and their shitty views are basically writing prompts for me.

At no point have I ever expected to change the bigots mind. They're not going to read a social media comment and wake up a new person -- they'd lose their bigot friends and bigot family.

But I have changed the minds of spectators, and thats important. Which is why assholes should never be left unchallenged when they're being assholes, especially on the safety of the internet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think there's that many spectators wandering around in true states of neutrality wondering whether their various conspiracies are true. Most people lean already, they've been already influenced. Thus, if not approached very strategically, you're actually recruiting for both sides.

Remember, they've attacked rationality and logic themselves. The people who still put faith in rationality and logic, and thus can be convinced with it, were not particularly vulnerable in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Conventional wisdom" is a thing. There are people who have adopted propaganda and misinformation as opinions simply because it never crossed their mind to challenge it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Pride started as a riot. Women's Lib started as a riot. Peaceful demonstrations achieve nothing.