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Rights advocates in the United States are urging President Joe Biden to end his administration’s “complicity” in Israeli rights abuses after key members of Israel’s government backed the idea of pushing Palestinians out of Gaza.

Far-right Israeli ministers Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich said this week that Israel should “encourage emigration” from the coastal enclave, home to an estimated 2.3 million Palestinians.

“If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million Arabs, the entire discussion on the day after [the war ends] will be totally different,” Smotrich said on Sunday, calling for the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians.

A day later, Ben-Gvir, who oversees national security, made a similar appeal, saying it was “a correct, just, moral and humane solution”, Israeli media outlets reported.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas didn't build any infrastructure with Iran's money. They built bombs. Israel voluntarily provided power to Gaza, but is under no compulsion to provide power to an enemy they're actively at war with.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hamas didn't build any infrastructure with Iran's money

Where would they have gotten water for the cement or fuel for the machines? Money's not very useful when someone else is actively preventing you from using them on the things you need.

They built bombs

As does Israel with the tens of billions of dollars the US sends every year. Israel spends more than the entire GDP of Palestine on murdering Palestinians every year.

under no compulsion to provide power to an enemy they're actively at war with.

It's a quasi-occupied territory that they have made sure can't get power in any other way. For Israel not to provide power to Gaza is Israel preventing Gaza from having power at.

And they're actively at war with Hamas, not the entire population. The vast majority of which has never harmed a single Israeli citizen and over 50% of which is CHILDREN.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where would they have gotten water for the cement or fuel for the machines?

Turns out the restrictions only applied because Hamas wants genocide. Money can, in fact, be exchanged for goods and services, and was for years prior to Hamas.

And they’re actively at war with Hamas, not the entire population.

They are at war with the government of Gaza, correct.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Turns out the restrictions only applied because Hamas wants genocide

So 6.8 million people have to suffer and die for it? You call that justice? Also, Hamas may want genocide, but they don't have the power to carry it out. Israel's government HAS the power and IS committing genocide.

They are at war with the government of Gaza, correct.

The majority of Gazans weren't alive the last time Hamas allowed a vote, let alone old enough to vote.

Hamas is not a legitimate government and their atrocities are neither the fault nor the responsibility of the civilian population.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Hamas is not a legitimate government and their atrocities are neither the fault nor the responsibility of the civilian population.

They are the government, and they have been consistently attacking Israel for 16 years, culminating in "Israel's 9/11"

Also, Hamas may want genocide, but they don’t have the power to carry it out.

Imagine Israel without the Iron Dome you don't want to give them money for.

So 6.8 million people have to suffer and die for it?

Suffering happens in war. That's why war is bad. 6.8 million people won't die though. There will be 6.77 million Palestinians in Gaza after this war, ideally closer to a 2 state solution than if Hamas was still around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You know what? Fuck it.

Keep using an imagined genocide to excuse an actual genocide.

Keep simping for a fascist government.

Keep defending an apartheid ethnostate system.

Keep excusing war crimes.

Keep victim blaming.

It's not like your awful perspective actually matters to anyone who matters anyway, thank fuck.

Have the day you deserve, genocide cheerleader.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've had a pretty fucking amazing couple weeks and that seems unlikely to change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then stop doing that and start having the days you deserve.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Stay angry about it forever lol