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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    i can't tell if this is serbocroatian or slovenian or something else but i'm too afraid to ask

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Serbocroatian is long gone, it was a construct made up back in Yugoslavia. It was basically Serbian written in latin (basically... there were some things from Croatian, but very little).

    It's Croatian. Serbian and Croatian are similar, but Serbian is written in Cyrillic, while Croatian in Latin.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    A majority of linguists consider Serbocroatian to be one language, there are many distinct dialects (with different countries having different standards). The writing system is irrelevant, the writing system isn't the language (this can be seen in Mongolian, Tibetan, Hindustani, Persian, Kazakh, previously Azerbaijani, and contemporary Chinese languages as well). Also you can write Serbian in Latin script (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Serbian)

    They are no less mutually intelligible than what are considered different dialects of other languages. In fact as someone who can read Russian & Polish I can understand a good amount of written Serbocroatian with trouble (it's a lot harder than reading something like Ukrainian due to linguistic distance), it's significantly closer between Serbian & Croatian varieties. Often people on media/politics pretend not to understand the other though due to mutual hatred from nationalism.

    I would like to spend a lot of time on the language one day, I haven't done much besides read some from grammar books on it. I like it a lot.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, you can write Serbian in latin, but not on any documents... as in, you can do it, but informally.

    You are correct about the politics part. Serbs and Croats understand each other perfectly, so do Bosnisnas. The odd balls out were Slovenian and Macedonian, with Slovenian (IMO) being a little bit harder to decypher than Macedonian.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    Ye AFAIK Slovenian is considered a very different language by most and Macedonian is significantly more grammatically similar to Bulgarian. I'm not very sure about Macedonian tho.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Yes, gramatically, it's similar to Bulgarian (we don't have cases like the others, we solve that with adverbs and adjectives), but in terms of words, it's similar to Serbian and Croatian. Regarding sentence structure, yes, it's similar to Bulgarian, with emphasis sounding more like Serbian or Croatian (Bulgarian sounds more like Russian).

    Slovenia was under Austro-Hungary during the last 5 centuries (20th century excluded), so they have a lot of German (Austrian) lingo in their vocabulary, plus sentence formation is also kind of confusing (for me at least).

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Government issued documents are in Cyrillic by default in Serbia, but official documents can be written in Latin as well. It's not forbidden to use either of the alphabets. Most of the ads, signs and similar material are written indeed in Latin.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    For "backwards compatibility" I presume... and also catering to Croats and Bosnians that live in Serbia.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    It's Serbocroatian, Serbian, Croatian or Bosnian.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It's not Czech. I'd say it's Croatian.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

    Yep, Croatian.