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Even the bluest and whitest Israeli apologist, convinced that the Israelis are the good guys in this conflict will -- if they're being honest -- tell you: "Hamas started a war and is hiding behind these civilians as human shields, so this is what happens, do not expect us to stay our hand to prevent it, or to take responsibility for it, what if it was your country in this position, you would change your tune real quick", etc etc etc. In essence, welcome to the real world, where this sort of thing can just happen and we do not have the ethical tools or framework to make it not happen. This is depressing as fuck.
A lot of Israelis imagine that in the aftermath of all of this Gaza will lose the capacity to launch another 7/10 and 'learn its lesson' which in itself will magically lead to a bright and peaceful future for the region. Somehow I am not so optimistic. Pragmatically speaking the Israelis themselves are in no position to say "now that we've bombed you, let us uplift you" but egads, someone should do something. The knowledge that even after Israel decides it has done enough and winds down its Gaza operation apparently no sane governing body wants to take responsibility for Gaza saddens me to no end. These people just deserved better, I don't care how much they cheered for 7/10 or whatever. There can be no justice or peace without compassion