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[–] [email protected] 223 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Lemmy sucks. You're whiney fucks. Enjoy the win. Both sides are not the same. This is an unfathomable event previously. Anyone remember Jeff Sessions first months in office? Stop bitching and show some fucking gratitude. Thousands of people are being pardoned. Is it perfect and everything we want? No. Does that take away from the achievement? No.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Purity tests all the way down and it's why populism never actually works. You can't be happy, even a little bit, about incremental progress if the "real problem" hasn't been dealt with. That problem will always be broad and impossible to truly achieve outside of theory. You end up with an ideology just centered around anger and despair.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

People who do this shit maintain positions they know are practically unworkable because the thing they fear most is actually having to govern and make difficult choices in the real world and then answer for the consequences of those decisions. It's much easier to just loudly state a preference for fantasy.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Lemmy sucks."

You are top comment. I always hated this "reddit sucks" attitude that everyone always adopted, especially when taking the most common and popular opinions on the platform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Like all the people bitching about the reddit hivemind just because they have an opinion that isn't literally dominant.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Hivemind was always the wrong word anyway. It's more of a mob mentality than anything organized and productive like a hive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Hahahahahaahhahahhaa I rarely go back to see votes and shit.. I've yet to ever have a highly voted comment here. Only bc your reply did I catch this. Phenomenal it's this comment

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There are a lot of right wing Poe's law trolls here pretending to be leftists, and a handful of people who get caught up in their privileged contrarian virtue. It's shocking to me that this isn't extremely obvious to more people here.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think there's also a lot of far left people here accusing left people to be right wing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

For sure. Actual leftists often criticize the Dems, because the Dems aren't leftist. They are mostly just centrists and they are in bed with Corporate America. That being said, I don't understand why some people have to criticize every little thing. I have been pretty critical of the Democratic party, myself, as a self identifying Socialist (begrudgingly still vote for them, because the other 1 option is way worse). These pardons are a good thing, though, and I don't see what the problem is for some people.

Some extreme leftists just turn into such contrarians that they end up sounding the same as right wing fear mongerers. It's like the political spectrum is a circle, with both of the left and right ends meeting up in a bubble of authoritarianism and hate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Same ideals here

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

These pardons are a good thing, though, and I don’t see what the problem is for some people.

I think the problem is that there's a very real sense that the party will make the first step the only step if we let them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

100%. Look at all the cities that rolled back progress on changes made to their police departments from the BLM movement as soon as they could.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It will be if the left criticizes biden for not doing more while at the same time praising hamas as a resistance force

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

It will be if we stop applying pressure while at the same time mindlessly supporting genocide for its own sake.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

A zillion percent. So much so I blocked a ton of keywords of political posts showing up for me here Then I ate a bunch of edibles and wrote an essay about my feelings on the matter.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

I think there's a lot of centrists who scream that all criticism from their left comes from all the way to their right in order to dismiss it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Well observed. Def feels like that is what's been ramping up lately

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy sucks.

I'm sorry you're forced to be here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I don't think you can blame people for being sick of the negativity. It's everywhere these days. You can't get away from it. You'd be forgiven for thinking that this smallish move on Biden's part would be greeted with indifference rather than outright boos, but no, nothing is ever good enough, this is the world we live in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It didn't suck when I chose to come here.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

And it still doesn't. Not everyone has to fake an orgasm over every incrementalist baby step just because you want them to.