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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe? not sure we're even that stage yet in Philippines. Is it really demeaning? Maybe that is in your view. I think the people manning those probably don't think so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The people manning those would probably prefer a less humiliating job for better pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Better pay yes everyone prefers that, as for the job itself is humiliating not sure about that. Maybe it's a cultural thing that I'm not getting. If the job pays you to grab carts and put it in their place and pays fair enough then what is humiliating for that? Let's imagine taste testers for dog food is that job humiliating if it pays well? What would be humiliating is if the job like putting carts to their right place requires you to be a college graduate and they pay low. Maybe that is what your referring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Being out in any weather taking care of something because other people are too lazy to do so is humiliating. I have no idea why you think it isn't.

And are they really getting paid fairly? If I looked up the pay of someone who returns carts, would it be a comparable wage to someone sitting in an office all day despite it being a much more physically demanding job?

Because otherwise, I think you and I have very different definitions of "fairly."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Fair enough, I looked into average office clerk salary and a bagger. They don't seem to be far off though probably way low compared to USA standard.

https://ph.indeed.com/career/bagger/salaries?from=top_sb

https://ph.indeed.com/career/office-clerk/salaries

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's humiliating about being a cart manager? It's a need and most folks generally appreciate it. My buddy was one for a while and he was able to maintain his physical fitness while feeling like he was able to genuinely help others, it was really only the poor pay that was a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just told you what's humiliating about it- Being forced to work in all kinds of weather doing something only because people are too rude to do it themselves. I'm glad your buddy didn't find ingratiating himself to people who are richer and more successful than him humiliating, but in general, most people would. Maybe he should look into becoming a butler.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you too proud to handle customers or something?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Handle customers" and "clean up after lazy, entitled customers" are two very different things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Yes always. Handling customers is doing things like helping them with their purchases. Not cleaning up their messes after they're already gone.