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The Star Trek community has been going strong for nearly 60 years for a reason - Star Trek rocks.
When it started in the 60s (and continued especially strong with TNG in the 80s), it was unique in depicting a hopeful look at how things could be rather than a reflection of how things are, differing from how most shows do social commentary. It's refreshing.
Star Trek is attractive to people who want to see a world where people work together toward great things in a post-scarcity utopia, with current day conversations of race, nationality, sex, gender, etc. being so far in the rear-view mirror that they're non-issues. Plus cool technology. I think that appeals to the Lemmy crowd.
Another key point I feel is often overlooked about Star Trek is the "Gulliver's Travels" component of (at least pre-Kelvin) Star Trek. Every show, every race was secretly a fun-house-like caricature of humanity's worst traits, with the humans of the show demonstrating growth past that point. You laugh at or shirk away from them, but really it's modern humanity that is being depicted (Ferengi as capitalists, Klingons as warmongers, Romulans as subversives, etc.) And then we see what we could be, the hope that you talked about, in future humanity
It seems like such a creative way to do social commentary. We get to see our present failings in aliens, and then contrast it with how the crew (future humanity) carries themselves. Sometimes it's very clunky and heavy handed (like that TOS episode with the half-white/half-black aliens), but it's still good. My favorites are every time Picard monologues about their values to an alien race in TNG.
Even if you already share the values, it's fascinating to hear them laid out so clearly.
It helps that Stewart is such a fantastic monologist. It's like hearing something complex about biology or ecology from David Attenborough. They both have such an effortless ability to communicate difficult subjects.
Picard monologues are in fact what I appreciate most in TNG!
Do you include Wesley as an alien in that instance? Because that monologue is solid.
I'm going to say yes. Every teenager is an alien.
Good take.
Shut up, Wesley
I really love it when it's especially heavy handed. That's my shit.
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That's very interesting. I think you've sold me on watching the show.
The original series is very 1960s and I wouldn't recommend for a jumping in point. I'd go with next Gen for that, it's the quintessential trek more so than the original having had 3 spinoffs in the 90s and defining most of the canon. Here's the issue though, the first 2 seasons of tng really suck. Like maybe the worst 2 seasons of the whole franchise. I'd check out some best of lists for those seasons and maybe sprinkle a couple random ones in, they did 26 hour long episodes per season and there are some amazing clunkers there, bad episodes are part of trek and you've gotta learn to enjoy them, but those first 2 seasons are rough.
But if you hang in there, you get rewarded with a Riker's Beard
How's Giant Spock doing?
Still vibin
Don't tell him about that Lower Decks episode.
https://startrekviewingguide.com/
To me, Trek is a mash of three great communities, each nerdy in their own way:
This article scratches the surface of it.
Thank you for the article. I'll need to look more into this in the future.
I think you personally posting more than the other Lemmings combined might have something to do with it...