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Facebook sends any messages it can to the police when they request so. Woman and her daughter were sent to prison for coordinating daughter's abortion over Fbook Messenger, which is also supposed to be E2EE:
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-turned-chat-messages-mother-daughter-now-charged-abortion-rcna42185
Facebook messenger has never claimed to be e2e encrypted
"Facebook Messenger offers end-to-end encryption, meaning chats between two users will be visible only on users’ phones and aren’t readable by Facebook or any government entity that makes a legal request to the company. But the option is available only to people using the Messenger app on mobile devices, and messages are encrypted only after users select the option to mark chats as “secret.”"
From their linked article.
It's insane to only have E2EE as an opt in feature.
I guess it's because they added it later so they can claim to have it while still being able to datamine the average user. Not that insane given that it's Facebook. I'd say what's insane is that's the same as what Telegram does and some people think that's secure!
This is about whatsapp.
The comment I replied to wasn't
When you send sms, you might as well be sending smoke signals. Not as if sms is secure in any modern sense of the word...
The object is not Facebook Messenger, which only uses E2EE with a specific hidden feature and is disabled by default.