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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"These monstrosities" will exist in anything short of a significantly de-growthed society. OP's picture is not typical of an F650. They are usually converted to flat bed towing, refrigerated box trucks, utility cranes, ambulances, and dump trailers. If you don't believe me, well, here's a listing of used ones. Notice how many have anything like the original bed.

In Europe, Volvo and Mercedes make trucks just like it for the same kind of market. All Ford did here was take the cab of an F250 and put it on a beefier frame and drive train.

These are work vehicles, bought by people who do work. Unless you're suggesting an immediate de-growth to the point that we no longer haul anything heavier than a cubic meter of gravel in a single trip, they will be necessary.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These are work vehicles, bought by people who do work.

The amount of pavement princesses out there says otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If we were talking about the F150 and trucks like it, sure. The F250 and up are a completely different matter. They don't share much except the name similarity.

OP was aimed at the completely wrong target.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The F150 is still a dual cab monstrosity. It's foot print is still close to the OPs pic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure. So post about that, not trucks people actually need to get work done.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

not trucks people actually need to get work done.

Which would likely be a transit, not a jacked up 4 wheel drive beast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uhh, yes. What do you think you need to haul 26,000 lbs? Trucks like that need long travel suspensions. The fact that a bunch of posers are taking that look and applying it for dick-waving purposes does not change the physics of how suspensions work.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who fucking hauls around 26,000lbs daily that doesn't need a CDL?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

It does need a CDL. People with CDLs also own trucks.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“These monstrosities” will exist in anything short of a significantly de-growthed society. OP’s picture is not typical of an F650. They are usually converted to flat bed towing, refrigerated box trucks, utility cranes, ambulances, and dump trailers. If you don’t believe me, well, here’s a listing of used ones. Notice how many have anything like the original bed.

I wrote "F650 pickup truck." I also, pointedly, did not write "F650 chassis-cab commercial vehicle" or anything similar. I generally choose my words pretty carefully when writing these comments.

Maybe you should make sure you read what a person actually wrote before falling over yourself to post a dishonest strawman argument.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago

Communicating poorly and then acting smug when you’re misunderstood is not cleverness.

Well, at least you admit that you misunderstood instead of doubling-down on the claim that I was talking about commercial vehicles. That's, frankly, better than I would've expected had we been discussing this back on Reddit, so thank you.

Since these barely even exist as pickup trucks, who’s making the strawman, here?

The person who posted the thread, of course. That's part of [or at least adjacent to] what I was complaining about to begin with!