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I'll go first. Mine is that I can't stand the Deadpool movies. They are self aware and self referential to an obnoxious degree. It's like being continually reminded that I am in a movie. I swear the success of that movie has directly lead to every blockbuster having to have a joke every 30 seconds

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

The original Star wars trilogy was overrated, the sequels were underrated, and I'd rate them all to be equally mediocre.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The Empire Strikes Back is the only one that I would say is a great movie.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

A New Hope is solid. You can find blemishes, and they've torn new ones with the "special editions" that just cram more CGI shit on the screen for no reason, but as a classic Hero's Journey movie A New Hope works rather well. It was amazing for its time; I mean, a fun Sci-Fi movie? With special effects this good? It was a cultural phenomenon for a reason.

The Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie that has been made, which is why when most people quote Star Wars they're actually quoting Empire. The characters are at their deepest, the setting feels the most magical, and the Luke/Vader saber fight is utterly gripping.

Return of the Jedi was the beginning of the "Lucas is a genius who can do no wrong, do everything he says" era. The "let's put a funny thing in the background" starts happening. We get Jabba's hedonism palace with the droid torture room, Bikini Leia, Ewoks, and lightning hands Palpatine. This would only get worse by the time the prequel trilogy is made, Lucas gets to make whatever he wants without question.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I agree with everything in this thread

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Not only that but the method of structuring a narrative that Star Wars popularized (the whole hero’s journey crap) has gone on to completely infect movie storytelling.

The Jedis in Star Wars are super boring, the battle for good and evil with the dark side is also super boring, shallow and uninteresting… the only thing that saves Star Wars are the set design and costume/alien designers who filled up the periphery of boring hero’s journey stories with a vibrant weirdness.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The best thing about Star wars is the world building. The expanded universe with the books, comics, and cartoons contain much better stories than any of the movies.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I watched and enjoyed the star wars movies but I never thought of them as great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The sequels were rated quite well by critics, except for the final one. The Last Jedi even got a better rating than Return of the Jedi from the originals.

I agree that overall the original Star Wars films are overrated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The Force Awakens would have been a 10/10 movie if it ended with the lightsaber fight on that forest planet. But no, they had to slog through the bullshit Death Star 2 arc and ruin it.