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I guess it wasn't about states rights, guys.
Lol. They've only ever used "states rights" like "small gubberment"; as a means to impose their will on the largest scale they currently hold power. As soon as they gain the upper hand and can impose their will via a higher government (or regulator) — such as imposing their will on local governments via state law, or imposing their will on states via federal law (or the EPA) — they don't give it a second thought.
This is how fascists and authoritarians operate. They lie, because words mean nothing to them but a means to achieve authoritarian rule... They don't stop at the national level either.
In Utah, our legislature is so committed to rejecting the will of large government and their attempts to control what happens. And yet, the Utah legislature itself controls every single thing that happens in this state, and so long as everyone agrees with their ultra-conservative point of view, then everything is great in their view of things. So in the end, we end up being slaves to THEIR beliefs anyway, and the victim of their own form of big government interfering in everything in our lives here all the time.
Multiple chicks at the same time. I get Mormonism.
It's year 2023 AD. You can have multiple chicks at the same time without Mormonism, if you can attract them, of course, and, eh, deliver on the attraction. And if you need official status, then contracts are a thing ; it may not be called "marriage" officially, but it'll work.
Exactly. That's what really makes a cult a "cult." The males get to sleep with as many underage females as they like. It's the same with every cult that's ever existed. If the sex part was removed, no man would even be interested in them.
Hilariously I am watching this video about that very topic right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1OkK7P4bng
That was indeed the joke.
Indubitably!
State's Rights means slavery. That's all it ever meant.
CSA states' declarations of secession, if I remember correctly, used the word "slaveholding" rather often to characterize CSA's members.
There are some other differences in direction, so back then it really was to some extent about states' rights, just as important as slavery or maybe a bit less. Which doesn't change the point.
(Also - I was a stupid kid at some point with sympathies to confederates. Eh.)
Like conservatives today, most of the men who fought and died for the Confederate states, were not a part of the ruling class they supported. They heard what they wanted to hear. They were convinced that the federal government was trying to take away their rights. They gave their own lives so a few rich men might continue to live by rich fucker rules. Men who owned other men. Men who didn't give a damn about the common folk they sent to fight. It's only ever been about the rights of the Few, the landowning slavers.
Mostly yes, but let's just say I think I understand Cherokee leaders which supported the Confederacy.
That's the reality of the world we live in. It's the whole point of George Orwell's "animal farm." The animals revolt and take over the farm for themselves, believing they can live in a more just world by equally dividing up the spoils and rights to everything among themselves. In the end though, one group of pigs believe they deserve a bigger slice of the pie than anyone else and commit violence to make sure they get it. It's inevitable. The few upper earners of our nation will always dominate and always get their way. There is no solution to it. That's life. And it always will be.