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Calls are growing for the UN Security Council to be reformed after the US became the only member to use its veto power to block a Gaza ceasefire resolution, a move welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The UN chief says he will keep pushing for peace.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Both are unacceptable but clearly Israel is more so. In a hostage situation, you don't bomb the neighborhood. I'd also like to point out that nobody is really defending Hamas, which is more acceptable is missing the point entirely.

Israel has serious military advantage, they can basically force a cease fire at any time. They aren't under threat and tbh, probably let the events that started all this happen for causus belli.

The article talks about a mostly symbolic UN vote that was vetoed by the US at the request of Israel. They don't want a ceasefire, they don't want their hostages back, they don't want a solution.

They just want to keep bombing.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'll agree israel is worse in hindsight, but Hamas kicked this off with this sneak attack that has led to this situation, so I'd say that is worse. Hamas was so successful in causing an Israeli intelligence disaster, which I feel like caused their military to lash out. All militaries do is destroy, they are not nation builders. Surgical special force operations can take a long time to plan and wouldn't work since there were so many hostages and they kept moving them around.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

What about the decades before this where Israel had been killing people, imprisoning without charges, and forcing them off their land? When that's added for context, Israel is the one who kicked this off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

All militaries do is destroy

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of violence generally. The purpose of destructive capability is deterrence, and hence the protection of things. This is really crucial to get in order to understand anything about violence at all.

This is why a mother cat bares her fangs when she’s cornered. She’s not attempting to destroy, but rather to prove that she can destroy, in order to deter an attack.

Weapons, by existing and being visible, send signals that make violence less likely to occur.

When weapons are being used actively to destroy, it’s because their initial purpose failed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Stop trying to wash Bibi's ass and depose him already. You are going to get Israel destroyed if you don't.