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Looking for some advice. Going camping in winter in vic. Got my eye on the 23Zero swag https://www.snowys.com.au/dual-swag-1100mm Or maybe the Coleman swagger darkroom https://www.snowys.com.au/instant-swagger-3p-darkroom Wondering if anyone’s got any experience or opinions? I’ve got a decent self inflating mat so I wouldn’t need to purchase that. I prefer the idea of the swag for longevity, but the tent for when the little fellas old enough to join me.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After a couple of decades camping I still can't see the benefit of a swag. A tent and mat often weighs less, provides a dry place to change/cook/have a cuppa in bad weather and can keep everything else dry too. Swags are tougher and a bit more convenient if you're regularly parking and hitting the hay in a rush but that's the only scenario that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Normally I’d agree. But I’m new to winter camping and after freezing my ass of last October in the high country in a hiking tent in keep to avoid the same mistake again haha

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't blame the tent for being freezing.

First they need to be setup properly to keep out the wind and rain. Did you do that?

Second, they're only going to keep out the wind and rain. You need your blankets and clothes to keep you warm if the air is just really cold.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Blankets between you and the ground are more valuable than between you and the air too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you have the same fabric and mattress, then a swag is going to be significantly lighter and smaller than any tent.

Sure - most swags have thick canvas but they don't have to. Some are just 750 grams and roll up so small you could almost fit them in your pocket (obviously no mattress in those ultralight ones).