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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (27 children)

Pro-Trump muslims. That's just great. So Trump gets voted in and instead of having a president ask IDF to spare as many civilians as they can, there will be a president who asks IDF to kill as many muslims as they can. While openly assassinating Iranian generals with precision missile strikes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely shocked that Muslim fundies hate most of the same people Christian fundies do, yet are too stupid to realize the leopard will come for them eventually.

Shocked I say.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

In the little exerpt included in with the submission, a spokesman makes it clear that they would be worse off in the short run if trump gets elected, but they are thinking long term.

And this comment is implying they are pro trump...and it's the highest voted comment? What's going on here?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"But they are thinking long term"

Yes, I'm sure a second Trump presidency will be just great for democracy and Muslims in the long-term.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I agree, probably wouldn't be. Couple that with all of the other threats to our world that Trump poses and "we're not happy with Biden's Israel/Palenstine issue so we're pulling support" seems incredibly stupid to me.

But the poster implied they were supporting Trump, when they pretty clearly said they do not. Right there in the excerpt from the article. And it's still being upvoted. It's kind of embarrassing, actually, how little people had to read what is right in front of them to not be wrong on this point. . .and it's still a popular opinion getting upvotes.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Letting Democrats take advantage of your vote and not listen to you over and over again it’s not a good strategy either. They don’t actually stop any of the things they used to fearmonger people with. They just wait so that they can use them as a threat again in the next election cycle. That’s an abusive relationship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"Yes, Jews recognize that it might not be the best next four years for us, but we just cannot support the Social Democratic Party of Germany for the 1933 election as our concerns are ignored by them and we are taken for granted. We're thinking about the long term strategy here."

Because the best strategy for leaving an abusive relationship is to start dating a serial killer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot of people feel justified in not actually listening to others and judging them from afar as what is happening. They feel justified in doing this for very specific reasons.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We live in a two party system. If you form a coalition to make Biden lose, then you're making Trump win. They're pro-Trump because they're helping Trump. What's going on is a fascist takeover of our country. We aren't giving slack to anyone who enables fascism. The fascists will kill more people not less. This is bad short term thinking and bad long term thinking. The reward for helping fascists is death.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you it's a dumb move. But dear God, they're literally telling you, almost explicitly, that they don't support the trump (basically supporting noone in the up coming election) and you're still desperately torturing logic and twisting words to deny it. Is it really so hard for you to accept reality? Is it really so hard for you to accept that things are not so black and white?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (28 children)

It is that black and white. We live in a two party system, that's reality. It's not twisting words, it's math. If one candidate doesn't win, the other candidate does. Republicans are overrepresented by the electoral college, not voting helps them win. The support may be inadvertent, but it's still support. They can say they don't support Trump all they want. If they don't vote for Biden, they are supporting Trump.

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