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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Again they understand that for the next 4 years, the thought is after that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The last 4 years of a GOP president saw 3 supreme court seats that will cause brutal ripples though our country for 20-30yrs at least.

Thinking that "whatever happens will only last 4 yrs" is either wildly stupid or intentionally misleading.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

It's a non-trivial assumption that there would even be a genuine election after that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

How well has that worked? Republicans won major victories in 2010 and 2016. Did we get a huge leftward swing between 2010-2016? Have Republicans been forced to moderate themselves since 2020?

There's a key mistake in your thinking. If Democrats lose, Republicans win, and when they win, they feel emboldened to push us as far right as possible. When they won in 2016, they took it as confirmation that Trumpism and fascism was the way to go.

Losing elections has never worked to push Democrats to the left. It's probably done the opposite actually, since Republican victories pull the country the other way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is that the Democratic Party interprets all losses as evidence that they haven't yet moved far enough to the right, and all wins as evidence that moving to the right works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've been running on Clinton's "third way" for three decades.

AOC and the squad are finally starting to turn it around.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

They’ve been running on Clinton’s “third way” for three decades.

And will continue doing so, win or lose, until elections are no longer a thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I get what you're saying. What I'm saying is that if the farther right candidate wins, the next nominee is going to move right because that's where the voters are.

And that's ignoring the rest of the comments about if there will even be another election.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So they will help put someone in power that will remove fair elections? That makes no sense as a long term plan, imo it's more likely they are trying to push democrats a certain way but are not truly entertaining the notion of voting for a fascist.