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"We recognize that, in the next four years, our decision may cause us to have an even more difficult time. But we believe that this will give us a chance to recalibrate, and the Democrats will have to consider whether they want our votes or not."

That's gotta be one of the strangest reasonings I've heard in a while.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

They must want to completely lose Democracy because they aren't getting their way. That's what's in the ballot. There very likely won't BE 2028 election if Rump gets back in.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If democracy isn't working for them, why would they vote for it? Remember, they just voted with Republicans to censure Rashida Tlaib over nothing too, and then there's all the other stuff like student loans, the child tax credit, gaslighting people about how well the economy is going, etc.

Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism, not actually improving things, because there always a Lieberman or a Manchin ready to sink anything that would be too lefty.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (20 children)

If democracy isn't working for them, why would they vote for it?

Because it can get worse. This seems obvious.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism

Is it an inevitable turn towards fascism, or is it people refusing to vote against fascism because Democrats don't "inspire" them?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

then there's all the other stuff like student loans, the child tax credit

I see someone isn't following what is happening or how this works. The President, leader of the Dems, changed federal policy to forgive student loans (or at least a big chunk of them for a big chunk of the population) and it got struck down by the Supreme Court thanks to the other party. The Dems passed the child tax credit and then couldn't get it through the house to renew it because of the other party.

Generally voting for democrats on the federal level just means halting or slowing down the inevitable ratchet towards fashism, not actually improving things

Let's say that's true, it's objectively not but let's pretend it is. Isn't that still the obviously better option? How the fuck is fascism today better than fascism tomorrow?