this post was submitted on 22 Nov 2023
272 points (98.9% liked)

Europe

8485 readers
1 users here now

News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures

Rules

(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)

  1. Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
  2. No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
  3. No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.

Also check out [email protected]

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

In a statement, Northvolt says its validated cell is more safe, cost-effective, and sustainable than conventional nickel, manganese and cobalt (NMC) or iron phosphate (LFP) chemistries and is produced with minerals such as iron and sodium that are abundant on global markets.

It is based on a hard carbon anode and a Prussian White-based cathode, and is free from lithium, nickel, cobalt and graphite. Leveraging a breakthrough in battery design and manufacturing, Northvolt plans to be the first to industrialize Prussian White-based batteries and bring them to commercial markets.

Reports across the web also say the technology enables the supply chain to become ecologically more sustainable, cheaper, abd less dependent on China.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Isn't Prussian white super rare too?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Time to put my chemistry to use for something other than covering up the ugly spot in the wallpaper!

Prussian white isn't really a thing a thing you dig up, it's a thing you make in a lab or a factory. The nice thing is that you can make it from basic components and basically at room temperatures It's just sodium, iron, carbon, nitrogen and manganese. Those are incredibly common elements and easy to find anywhere on earth.

Synthesis probably involves some solvents and acids, but nothing overly dangerous. You can make this stuff in a very basic lab with moderately basic precursors.

(although industrial size synthesis is very different from what people publish papers on, so take all this with a grain of salt)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you mean, I cannot just buy a 1000 gallon beaker and pour stuff in?! My childhood was a lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A surprisingly large number of "chemical reactors" are literally that, but with metal instead of glass beakers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yea, but they're WAY more complex than a giant beaker and if it's an exothermic reaction, they basically always take extra, cooling and all sorts of control mechanisms, too. By saying, "but they basically are" is very specifically ignoring every single detail about the entire point.

It IS NOT like a giant beaker precisely because it needs all of the extra stuff on top of a giant container.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It's a natrium-iron cyanide salt. Probably poisonous, not any harder to produce than any other industrial chemical, as long as you automate the process.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe it's not easy to produce, but Na2Fe[Fe(CN)6] doesn't seem like it has any rare raw materials (but I'm a layman and just googled it).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Iron, carbon, and nitrogen? It’s been produced for hundreds of years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Isn't that one of the colors Bob Ross was always using?