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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

When will be your "this is the last fucking time I'm voting for the 'lesser of two evils', then I don't care after that, let this country burn to the ground"? For me, this is basically it. This is last election I'm going for that " lesser of two evils" bullshit. After that I'm done. It's just pointless. Let's hear it.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

It always has been, and always will be, voting for the lesser evil. That's because of the voting system. Single vote, winner take all. Push for ranked choice or some other vote system. Then we can learn if it's turtles (evil) all the way down.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Then we can learn if it's turtles (evil) all the way down.

@DeweyOxberger well, as someone who voted to change the electoral system and got what I wanted (the country changed to Mixed Member Proportional voting aka MMP, I can report from the other side...

We have found it's Winston all the way down.

He's a populist centrist and a bit of a troll, and he has managed to position himself politically in such a way that waiting for Winston to hammer out deals so we can find out who the government is, is a pretty normal here.

We're waiting right now for him in fact. The party with the most votes can't govern without him.

It's still way better than FPP though.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Any reasonable electoral system will consistently elect people who represent something close to the average will of all the voters. Sounds like the system is working correctly.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm not complaining. I like the system.

But it is a quirk that there have been times when almost half the voters voted for either left or centre left, almost half the voters voted for right or centre right, and then we wait around for weeks while Winston (who only got 6% or whatever) decides which half should get to govern.

Same principle as swing states I guess. It's just amusing that it's always the same specific person, especially given his personality.

The great thing about MMP is the proportionality often has a moderating effect. It annoys me when the left are in power (Winston won't let the Green Party get their way on some things) but it feels like a saving grace when the right wing are in power (Winston will also not let the neoliberal libertarians get their way on some things). So it's working as intended.

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