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When will be your "this is the last fucking time I'm voting for the 'lesser of two evils', then I don't care after that, let this country burn to the ground"? For me, this is basically it. This is last election I'm going for that " lesser of two evils" bullshit. After that I'm done. It's just pointless. Let's hear it.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It demonstrably does not change anything outside local elections.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

As someone whose local election ousted a literal fascist, never forget local elections, folks.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

sigh

Your vote matters just as much as everyone else's. So you're saying nobody's vote matters? Clearly that's not the case. Unless there's something special about your vote compared to everyone else's. I understand what you're getting at, but the conclusion that you shouldn't vote is flawed.

Your vote doesn't decide the election on its own. Does that mean it doesn't matter? Absolutely not.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

sigh

Le epic redditer moment

Your vote matters just as much as everyone else's.

Unless you live in non-swing state in which case your vote literally means nothing as you're a minority voter for at least the next 30 years. Even then, the vote of someone in a state with a small population gives more of a share of electoral college votes than a populous state. Plus the whole 2 senators a state thing etc etc.

Your whole position is flawed. You're reversing the responsibility of ensuring people get to vote. Politicians are well paid professionals whose entire job is to ensure that their political plans come to fruition. Blaming some doomer online for the failures of the party is completely missing the point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Le epic redditer moment

Look dude we're both insufferable, let's stay on topic

If you believe your vote doesn't matter, then you believe nobody's vote matters. Clearly that's not true. I get that voting for the less popular candidate won't win the election for you. Boo hoo. Don't conflate "losing the election" with "not mattering" though.

If you believe your vote doesn't matter, you either believe:

  • all votes are not equal (within a given election) or
  • the elections are entirely rigged
[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you believe your vote doesn't matter, you either believe: all votes are not equal (within a given election).

Yeah, like I explained in my original comment in great detail exactly how and why certain votes are not equal.

I struck a nerve with the redditor comment considering you responded to that 4 word sentence but not the paragraph explaining basic American Electoral structure.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You fool! Youve taken the bait. I am 3 moves ahead and your fate is sealed

What makes those votes unequal?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You fool! Youve taken the bait. I am 3 moves ahead and your fate is sealed

Grown adult saying this btw. God, I was less cringe in high school.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seems like some pussy shit to avoid my dastardly trap but ok. I'm 12 and 3/4 btw

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Nevermind, that's a normal amount of cringe for your age.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Your vote matters just as much as everyone else's.

That is mathematically not true, the electoral college exists. Also, the candidate with less votes than their opponent has won 1/3 of US elections in the 21st century. So even if the voters go out and vote, there is a 1/3 chance the person that gets the most votes will lose the election in modern US politics.