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I know that it's an herculean task with millions of workhours to build a browser from scratch with all engines JS (SpiderMonkey), CSS (Quantum) and HTML (Gecko) and we can be lucky to have Firefox. I use the very performant version on Android every day and especially appreciate that Dark Reader and uBlock Origin work.
May I have a minute to talk to you about our saviour Vivaldi?
If no other browser could satisfy you, you either haven't tried Vivaldi, you haven't tried it long enough or you tried an old version.
For me no other browser comes close regarding the IMO most important feature of browsers (beside supporting the essential web-standards): tab management. Stacking, tiling, hibernating, pinning and more recently the fantastic workspace-feature.
That's only on the tab-front. How about: built in tracker- & ad-blocker, built in dark website-mode, translator, email-client, rss reader, note-app, reading-list, user definable search-engines, page screenshots, appify websites into sidebar and another killer feature: press F2 for a combined command-window and search-everywhere popup.
The next best thing after the year of the Linux Desktop would be if Vivaldi and Firefox joined forces and Vivaldi would switch to Firefox's engines.
Edge does nearly all those things now too. Edge and Vivaldi are both closed source and yet another Chromium under the hood.
I'll pass ty.
First of all I respect your love and support for Vivaldi. I'm also happy that you find something that is satisfying for you.
Yes, Vivaldi is a solid option but it never clicked for me because of all the extra bells and whistles you mentioned.
When I said I'm not satisfied with all these other famous browsers it's because I tired them on an off many times but for my use case they don't bring me anything over Firefox. I don't need nor I want a built-in RSS reader, ad/tracker blockers, VPN, email client, translator etc... It doesn't make a browser better in my humble opinion. It's just adding extra stuff that I don't want. I want the freedom to add or remove anything I want.
I might be the odd one but I want things to be simple. When I buy a phone I don't want to be paying for the extra cameras it has or when I buy a PC I don't want the RGB stuff or when I buy a car I don't want it to be connected to internet and require software updates. I don't want my fridge to have internet connection nor my TV to have one.
Thanks for understanding. Didn't want to disrespect your inclination to Firefox. Everyone should use what they like best. And I sure don't want to sound preachy...but...YOU'RE MISSING OUT BIG TIME! Can I come in for just a moment to tell you about your path to a better life?
"Simple things should be simple but complex things should be possible" (Alan Kay)
Vivaldi's UI is pretty minimal by default and can be minimized even more. Heck you even can hide the tab- and url-bar and completely navigate with F2. You can call it a day and keep using it like that or you go on to create mouse gestures, quick commands or themes, you set the key combos, configure the look of your speed dial and add search engines. That's my last try, Neo. Do you take the red or the blue pill?
Ahahaha. Thanks but no thanks. I don't have a fear of missing out and I don't see myself using Vivaldi as my default browser in anytime soon.
Good luck with your conversion efforts.