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The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of the hostages is visibly wounded in his arm and is brought on a hospital bed, while the second is forcefully dragged into the hospital. “These findings prove that the Hamas terror organization used Shifa Hospital on the day of the massacre itself as terror infrastructure,” the IDF says.

TIL bringing a wounded civilian in for treatment makes the treating hospital "terror infrastructure".

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Further images released by the IDF from the surveillance cameras at Shifa show Hamas terrorists inside the hospital, and outside the rooms of the hostages, as well as stolen IDF vehicles brought to the medical center.

It wasn't a wounded person that was the problem.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

In an evening press conference, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says the two wounded hostages were later taken by Hamas to hideouts, and that the Red Cross was unable to visit them. He says their locations are currently unknown.

You're going to just disagree with the IDF spokesman here?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, let's say you're a cop and you have an injured prisoner but no car. You grab a vehicle off the street and bring the guy to the nearest hospital. You don't want your prisoner to escape, so you stand guard outside the room while he's getting treated, then take him into custody.

You see the problem here? In one viewpoint, it's a soldier responsibly getting treatment for a prisoner; in another viewpoint, the entire hospital complex had enemy soldiers in it at some time and therefore deserves to be razed to the ground.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Now substitute prisoner with kidnapped hostage you have no right to touch and that you most likely shot yourself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes perception is a thing, way to rephrase their point in a much dumber way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The police all over the world shoot people all the time and then bring them to the hospital to get fixed. There’s nothing suspicious about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

And yet that still doesn't make that hospital a Hamas HQ and hence the deaths due to the IDF attack on it justified...

If some mob guy shoot some person to teach him a lesson and then brough them to the hospital, that would not in any universe make the hospital a "Mob HQ" and justify a military attack on it killing civilians and medical personnel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The wounded guy? Sure thing. But the other one didn't seem to be too injured to be taken to a hospital for treatment

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

In an evening press conference, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari says the two wounded hostages were later taken by Hamas to hideouts, and that the Red Cross was unable to visit them. He says their locations are currently unknown.

They were both wounded

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you take two prisoners and don't want to split up your forces, then you bring both of them to the hospital, get the injured one treated, and take both of them away.