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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

:/

Drone footage of tunnel entrance on hospital grounds:
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/b9216285-5630-44f4-87a0-7f8f543de11f

Israeli hostages being led inside the hospital:
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/a72d538a-f733-45bc-a045-e6b432578160
https://videoidf.azureedge.net/7bf213e9-9301-436f-9a37-66fe5461a6c6

More pictures of Hamas terrorists with hostages inside hospital:
https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC191120236486845465465

Map of where hostages' bodies were later recovered:
https://idfanc.activetrail.biz/ANC19112023684648516

But don't let the truth detract from those fuzzy feelings of righteousness :)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

What are you seeing here? There's a small shaft that looks a long way from the hospital, maybe a well, maybe a sewer, nothing to suggest it's anything untoward. There's some people walking through some buildings, then a map with writing on.

Where are you seeing evidence here? Where are you seeing any of the things you're claiming?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago
  1. That looks like a pretty standard utility tunnel. The video conveniently stops at the "blast door" which isn't actually weird because electricity is hella dangerous. I would be willing to bet the most dangerous thing found behind that door is a surge arrestor.

  2. The hostages being led inside the hospital isn't great, but it looks to me like they needed medical attention. What would you prefer happen? If I were a hostage and needed medical attention I would much rather live in a world where the hospital cooperates with the "baddies" to provide that medical care and do the "recovery" later, wouldn't you?

  3. Those videos show living hostages. If the goal is to recover the hostages then why is the IDF only recovering bodies?

Based on that evidence you provided I would offer the counter-narrative that it appears that Hamas is trying their best to keep the hostages alive while the IDF prefers them martyred.