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Inside a Gaza bedroom, soldiers searching for tunnels find how low Hamas can go
(www.timesofisrael.com)
this post was submitted on 11 Nov 2023
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I hate Hamas but this is just rage bait made to make you completely dehumanize the enemy, to make you OK with all the civilian Palestinian deaths in this war. It has no place in a news oriented community.
What are you talking about? How is this article rage bait? How would the article have to be different in your opinion?
They pretty calmly explained where they found tunnels and what they found in them.
First the headline is
"[..] find how low Hamas can go"
And it's not referring to the depth of the tunnel. From the get go it's framing the "news" as evidence of Hamas being evil. Something we need no proof of after the countless atrocities they've committed, so the purpose, intended or otherwise is something else.
Then:
"Combat Engineering Corps’ 614th Battalion as they carried out a second round of sweeps in a single-family home — with an outdoor swimming pool — in an upscale beachside neighborhood."
Pointing out the swimming pool which is not necessary at all is text book to make your enemy seem amoral.
"soldiers had found a portal to where monsters were hiding."
Cute comparison to monsters under the bed or just a convenient way to get away with calling them monsters outright? Which while it holds true is not some objective fact that needs stating and is indisputably dehumanizing.
“It’s not ethical, the way that Hamas works,”
No shit Sherlock, we're talking about terrorists with more than 1000 civilians dead in just one attack. But here he's talking about hiding a tunnel in a kids room. Hardly the worst of their crimes. It's just to drum up feelings.
"With tendrils of underground fortifications running beneath crowded residential neighborhoods, the army says it has little choice but to bring the fight to the homes, hospitals, schools and clinics believed to shield the network."
Very overt way to say "it's OK that we bomb civilians, we need to to fight Hamas!" It's dangerous clearing tunnels yes, and it's very risk free to just bomb the ever living shit out of every building "believed to shield the network".
" “We scan thoroughly, and there is intelligence, and the intelligence is very good. And there are means by which we both locate and destroy [the tunnels],” Adoniram said."
Not good enough to see the Oct 7 attack come but good enough to target hospitals huh? I don't really buy it.
"Many had fled south or were sheltering at schools or hospitals. By the UN’s estimate, some 1.5 million of Gaza’s population of over 2 million was internally displaced."
The same schools and hospitals they then bomb, leading to the thousands of dead civilians.
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He had heard tell of an incident in which civilians who approached troops to ask for water had been used as cover for gunmen to open fire at the soldiers "
Stuff like that needs to be precise, I don't necessarily doubt it but why isn't it confirmed fact but "had heard tell"? Why is it in the news? Why didn't they ask the source to confirm it?
I hope that explains why I see it as rage bait.
Just the headline is reason enough not to click.