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[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Exploitation and autocracy are expressly encouraged by particular structure, though, whereas antagonized by other.

Again, you're skirting around saying things. If you want to say that capitalism is bad and communism is good that's fine by me.

Personally, I see flaws in both systems. They're different, but both are susceptible to exploitation, albeit in slightly different forms. It's only through constant review and viligilance that the rot can be kept away.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Communism is not complacency or obedience.

It is simply the eradication of the systems of exploitation.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

And yet, in many countries that have applied communism people still get exploited.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

If worker exploitation has not been overcome, then communism has not been achieved.

As I say, I feel doubtful that you genuinely understand communism.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

then communism has not been achieved.

I'd agree with that. Communism has not really ever been implemented successfully, for a number of reasons. One of those is incumbents from the old system trying to twist the new system into something else, all for their own benefit so they can stay on top. Another is influence from non-Communist nations eg the US.

As I say, I feel doubtful that you genuinely understand communism.

You keep saying that but offer no actual corrections to say where I'm wrong or what is right.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You keep saying that but offer no actual corrections to say where I’m wrong or what is right.

The reason is because of much of what you have written, for example...

in many countries that have applied communism people still get exploited.

Various examples occur throughout your comments appearing as reactionary or liberal obfuscations of communism, and its differences with capitalism, or that seem unaware of general criticisms of capital.

You may feel my characterizations are inaccurate, and you may be correct, but I feel that they are representative of your argumentation, by its heavy assimilation of various tropes common within bad faith engagement with leftism.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

or liberal obfuscations

Now who's using terminology they don't really understand. Just because you're a member of a clique/cult with its own specific definitions for terminology does not make that terminology valid. The bad faith engagement is your own, as you assume your definitions are universal, rather than taking a common sense approach, or even establishing definitions before building an argument.

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