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They could have abandoned their goal and seek coexistence. But using your logic ask yourself what choice does israel have as a response to an enemy like hamas?
What is happening in the West Bank right now where there is no Hamas? Are you purposely ignoring that israel is giving paramilitary terrorists weapons to shoot innocent Palestinians AND protects those Israeli terrorists with their army?
ISRAEL is the party that does not want peace. They have openly stated they want to ethnically cleanse Palestine. Their government has stated wanting to nuke Gaza.
I am sure that they have all sorts of people and some of them were always this way but I suspect they were radicalized with the terrorist attacks. I mean at a personal level if someone kills your family you’d probably don’t care about nuances or context. It just happens that they have more means to carry out their “vengeance”.
My man these terror Zionists have been shooting innocent Palestinians in the west bank wayyy before Oct 7.
Oct 7 was done as a response to these terror Zionists. Hamas cited it as a direct reason for their counter offensive.
You can use your comment to justify the Hamas members, but not the israeli colonists purposely seeking conflict and killing Palestinians.
I know the world didn’t start on October 7. The pogroms have been going on for millenniums.
Don't blame the Palestinians for the Europeans and Americans which love throwing religious minorities under the bus. If the Zionists want revenge on Germany they seen to have taken a wrong exit on the highway.
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WW2 is recent history in the context of anti semitism. to give you an idea here is a selected list of pogroms of the last 2000 years:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom#Selected_list
EDIT: I guess you don't want to accept that you lack basic knowledge on the issue.
Did the Palestinians do ww2?
Ah look like they are using stupid bots to spread misinformation. Too bad it can’t understand what is being said.
Not bombing the shit out of innocent civilians and not committing war crimes is a great start for coexistence. To late for that now though... the only course from here is either a complete cease fire and the releasing of Palestine back to the plaistinians or complete brutal genocide of an entire group of people. It seems the governments of the world are attempting to choose the later...
This has been developing for longer than recent history. I sort of agree that israel should have continued one of the last 2-3 wars until the fundamentalist extremists surrendered or were killed. Instead of giving land back and attempting to serk peace. I think it was a mistake to try 5-6 times. after 2 or 3 it’s clear the enemy doesn’t want anything less than a war of extermination so they should give them that.
I guess the question remains, Who is the enemy to you? Is it Hamas? Is it the people of Palestine? Is it the children and innocent people being slaughtered in mass? Where does the violence stop? What is the limit of "acceptable losses"? Why do the cries and suffering of one group get listened to more than another group?
Fuck Hamas and fuck the Israeli government. Bring peace, not death and war.
I consider Hamas as the enemy of israel. And i am not sure if I consider hamas an enemy of palestine but they are certainly bad for the ones that are not in favor of a war of extermination.
I understand that palestinians even had a civil war because too many of them were against peace even after they lost the war. I suppose israel had concerns of escalation and didn’t join the war in favor of those who wanted coexistence.
So ideally palestinians should be “telling on” hamas to israel. Hamas is the enemy in general.
The same as Hamas, not kill civilians indiscriminately. But both sides are horrible and I'm not the least bit interested in a breakdown of who's the worst. They both suck, and have for more than half a century.
That's why I say this is a shit storm loooong in the making.
So you implied that hamas didn’t have a choice but now you say they did have a choice? Which one is it?
I meant war and conflict in general as what choice do they have. Didn't you read all of the first post? Killing civilians is always inexcusable.