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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Overlooking the title, the real news to me in this article is the rapidly increasing difficulty of getting permission from that vendor to unlock your bootloader in the first place.

And why should you need permission to do this?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's so weird that Google's phone has been the most accessible for unlocking your phone. Oneplus used to be good too, but then they became bad in that area too and now custom rom scene seems dead for newer Oneplus phones.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oneplus used to be good too,

On that note, Xiaomi also used to be good. In fact, xiaomi's initial popularity is for the ease of unlocking and rooting. Once it gain popularity, it started to lock down, much like the path OnePlus is on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Anyone else here nostalgic for installing MIUI on their nexus 5?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, did they? Easily unlocking the bootloader was exactly what I chose my OnePlus 6t for. Sad to see how fast they dropped that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

they were godsends back in the OnePlus 6/7 days because their phones and custom OS was meant to be more root friendly than the rest. it was what sold me and a buddy of mine on them in the first place

sadly, it's gone south now but it was fun back when it happened

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wish flashing custom ROMs was like flashing custom firmware to routers. With most routers you can return it back to stock and no one will know the difference.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is this not the case with the pixel?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

It is the case for a Pixel. Flash stock, relock and no one will know you've messed with your device.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Once its unlocked it trips a fuse on a hardware level.

A pixel is better but not perfect

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think that's Samsung. The Pixels don't have a fuse AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I've never owned a Samsung device. I just know that unlocking a pixel voids the warranty

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No it doesn't. Also you can just relock the bootloader. Google doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Not enforceable in Europe. The OEM would have to explicitly prove that the bootloader unlock is what caused the issue that brought about the warranty claim.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I just know that unlocking a pixel voids the warranty

And how do you "just know" that? Any sources? Everything I've read and even done with my Pixel says otherwise, though I do return to stock and relock before returning.

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/94497368/will-unlocking-bootloader-custom-rom-void-my-pixel-warranty

https://android.gadgethacks.com/news/psa-unlocking-your-pixels-bootloader-does-not-void-your-warranty-0175739/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I've been waiting since a week to unlock my bootloader. I still have to wait 4 more days to be able to unlock. Once it's done I'm going to Lineage OS.

Xiaomi phones have a good hardware to price ratio. I've got a headphone jack, dual SIM, and a dedicated memory card slot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I got my Redmi Note 11 one and a half years ago. The waiting time for their shitty tool to unlock the bootloader after a week wasn't the biggest obstacle for me. What really pisses me off is that they violated their obligations to upload the kernel sources and therefore significantly delayed custom ROM development. While being a cheap and popular device, it hasn't received Lineage OS support and probably never will. That ship has sailed because Xiaomi just doesn't give a fuck about what their end of the deal is if they want to use a decent FOSS based OS on their phones instead of spending huge amounts of money and time to build their own ecosystem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Many years back if I am not mistaken the bootloader came unlocked. That led to some resellers flashing their bloatware on to the phones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

And why should you need permission to do this?

Xiaomi historically had a problem with resellers installing malware in custom ROM on their phones, so they started putting up more and more obstacles to unlocking the bootloader over time, while still providing an avenue for legitimate customers to unlock.

I don't know what spurred the current action though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It does seems that they just made it nearly impossible to unlock the phone for the Chinese version of their phone: You need to be 'level 5' in their shitty forum. And from what I gathered this involves posting hundred or thousand of messages with a lot of likes.

I don't think it will take long before they pull the same kind of bullshit for the global version of the phone unless there is a general outcry.