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I doubt it. True random shuffle play is rare, because humans don't understand the chaos of true random generation, we see patterns in it and assume it's not random.
A truly random shuffle can play the same song twice. A truly random shuffle can play multiple songs from the same artist in a row. In the fullness of time all of these will happen with a true random shuffle.
Nothing does that these days. Nearly everything "random" is algorithmically engineered to be less random so it feels more random to humans.
You can definitely make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t play the same song twice within a gap of ten songs.
You just make a list of all the song IDs that aren’t in the last ten played, and grab an item at a random index.
Randomness is a texture not a shape. Dice are random despite only being able to present six outcomes.
But then it is not truly random, that is the point.
The same song 10 times in a row also has a chance of happening in a truly random list.
Random pick without replacement is no less random than random pick with replacement. You just have a continuously smaller pool to pick from.
It's absolutely possible to have better randomness/shuffle without repeating songs so often.
there exist other random distributions than the uniform distribution
You’re thinking of a random sequence. We’re talking about shuffling according to a random seed.
Tidal does and it's annoying af.
now I wish for a more nuanced configed shuffle because I totally love having a few songs from the same artist back to back but not the same one.
A truly random walk through a playlist might choose the same song twice in a row. A truly random shuffle would only have each entry appear once and you'd have to play past the end of the shuffle to hear a song repeat.