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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (6 children)

According to two sources familiar with the matter and another person briefed on Team Trump’s legal strategies, the former president and his lawyers are intentionally trying to provoke the judge into a nuclear-level overreaction.

This? Is the plan?

That's like saying you're going to kill a dragon by hopping into its mouth.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overreaction?

How is it an overreaction when any normal person would have been tossed in jail months or even years ago?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Normal people don't have a few thousand people out there waiting for an excuse to shoot people.

But they should jail Trump anyway. When you have such a dangerous following, it's even more important that the law come down hard.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

They're already finding excuses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How so?

Those are supposed to be independent examples of how rich people get richer, but yes, they can do all of them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The whole "well-organized militia" thing is kinda biting the US in the ass.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
According to two sources familiar with the matter and another person briefed on Team Trump’s legal strategies, the former president and his lawyers are intentionally trying to provoke the judge into a nuclear-level overreaction.

I think Trump's legal strategy is he knows he's lost already. He's going to be fined and run out of business. So is his only hope is if he and his lawyers are obnoxious dicks and provoke a reaction to force a mistrial or grounds for appeal. Also he can whine about "witch hunt" and the usual nonsense to his base if he's found in contempt or held accountable for his actions. Expect this nonsense to happen in his criminal trials too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think Trump’s legal strategy is he knows he’s lost already.

I'm pretty sure he has lost already and guilt has been legally decided. This is to determine the penalty. FTA:

Engoron ruled in September that Trump's financial statements contained fraud.

This trial is to determine the depth of the fraud, and importantly, the consequence appropriate depending on the outcome. The whole strategy now is to delay and get to appeal probably with the number one goal being to get elected again and create a legal quagmire, or simply ride out the rest of his years until his milkshake-filled arteries realize he hasn't ever had a heart and the only thing that's been pumping this long is pure narcissism.

This is, sadly, probably the least stupid thing he could do, because the more facts you learn about Trump, the more you'd think his fetish is just bending over and getting fucked by a strap-on wielding Lady Justice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the judge loses it bad enough, they can claim "judicial bias" and have a pretty clear path to mistrial/appeal. Given the situation, it's probably the best play they have.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any normal defendent would be in jail though, probably before the trial even started, but definitely after calling a judge names while in court. I'm simultaneously shocked and not at all surprised he isn't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Why would he have been in jail prior to trial?

They don't do pre-trial detention for fraud, and the only way for this trial to lead to jail time is a (deserved) contempt charge.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

If the lawyers get disbarred then Trump gains time but the lawyers' careers are fucked

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair it does work if you have an immovable rod and a DM that honors rule of cool.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"Step 1, I hop into the dragon's mouth. Step 2, ???. Step 3, the dragon dies and I emerge victorious! There are no holes in this plan at all!"