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Easy HTTPS for your private networks (www.getlocalcert.net)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This webpage provides instructions for using the acme-dns DNS challenge method with various ACME clients to obtain HTTPS certificates for private networks. Caddy, Traefik, cert-manager, acme.sh, LEGO and Certify The Web are listed as ACME clients that support acme-dns. For each client, configuration examples are provided that show how to set API credentials and other settings to use the acme-dns service at https://api.getlocalcert.net/api/v1/acme-dns-compat to obtain certificates. Interesting that so many ACME clients support the acme-dns service, providing an easy way to obtain HTTPS certificates for private networks.

HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36674224

seiferteric: Proposes an idea for automatically creating trusted certificates for new devices on a private network.

hartmel: Mentions SCEP which allows automatic certificate enrollment for network devices.

mananaysiempre: Thinks using EJBCA for this, as hartmel suggested, adds unnecessary complexity.

8organicbits: Describes a solution using getlocalcert which issues certificates for anonymous domain names.

austin-cheney: Has a solution using TypeScript that checks for existing certificates and creates them if needed, installing them in the OS and browser.

bruce511: Says automating the process is possible.

lolinder: Mentions Caddy will automatically create and manage certificates for local domains.

frfl: Uses Lego to get a Let's Encrypt certificate for a local network website using the DNS challenge.

donselaar: Recommends DANE which works well for private networks without a public CA, but lacks browser support.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMHO all these approaches are convoluted and introduce way too many components (SPOFs) to solve the problem. They're "free" but they come at the cost of maintaining all this extra infrastructure and don't forget that certificate transparency logs mean all your internal DNS records that you request a LetsEncrypt certificate for will be published publicly. (!)

An alternative approach is to set up your own internal certificate authority (CA), which you can do in a couple minutes with step-ca. You then just deploy your CA root cert to all the machines on your network and can get certs whenever you need. If you want to go the extra mile and set up automatic renewal, you can do that too, but it's overkill for internal use IMHO.

Using your own CA introduces only a single new software component and it doesn't require high availability to be useful....

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately these days internal CAs aren't always trusted. We have one where I work, and hundreds of times a day people have to click through "I understand the risks, proceed anyway" alert prompts.

Which makes me really uncomfortable - I fear one day someone will blindly click past a warning about an actual malicious certificate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It kills me that companies seem to willingly train their users to ignore warnings and signs that something is amiss.

"Yeah, all our emails from that vendor come with the external email warning, just ignore it"