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They don’t have a brain really and kinda just float there. Do they even feel pain?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Vegan is a very wide array of things ranging to not eating red meat all the way down to not doing anything that could hurt a plant (only scavengering fallen fruit).

https://theminimalistvegan.com/types-of-vegans-and-vegetarians/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This is not at all what Veganism is.

Veganism is LITERALLY an ethical stance regarding exploiting/harming/killing non-human animals.

Finding a random blog online that states otherwise means nothing. Anyone who ate a salad last Tuesday these days thinks they can simply decide what Veganism is.

THIS is the actual definition of Veganism, directly from the people who coined the term:

“Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of animals, humans and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals

Plastics that encapsulate microprocessors in computers come from fossil-fuel chemicals which are extinct animals buried millions of years ago.

So it's not vegan to use a computer check-mate vegans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's mainly about intention, not coincidence. You did not kill those extinct animals, nor did you ask or pay someone else to do it. It was not your nor someone elses intention that was involved in their extinction. It could still be seen as exploiting one of earths limited resources though, but that's not directly related to veganism.
I know some vegans consider it fine to consume animal products that did not cause harm or are not exploitative, or even meat from animals which were not killed or harmed intentionally.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget the ecosexuals.

I'm not making that up, it's apparently a thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

now that i've read the wikipedia article about them, i prefer to forget the ecosexuals.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

jains are considered vegans but vegans don't have the same considerations. a vegan is simply somebody who avoids consuming any animal product including leather, honey, wool &c

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I once read a very good argument for Vegans who want to justify eating honey. Bees can’t be caged; they are free to simply fly away. Bees can (and do) leave bad beekeepers who don’t take proper care of them, or if they aren’t satisfied with their living conditions.