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"All the land was claimed by others before we were born"
(lemmy.world)
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this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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You're right that people need to work. I think you're reading something that's not there.
The point is that we need a physical place to exist, to sleep, to work. And since all physical places are already owned, in addition to the work we normally would have to do, we now have to pay a portion of our labor to people who own things. And sure, after we've been working a bit we start to own things too. But it's an uneven playing field. If you didn't come into the world owning, you can be denied work. You can be made homeless.
If we don't want the world to devolve back to the scenario you described where another tribe comes and takes what you've worked for by force, we should guarantee a base level of human needs being met.
It's not wrong that our basic needs are exploited by others, but it is wrong to say that we're the only species who pays to exist. All life must "pay" by expending energy to find food and shelter. We've just developed a system where we earn imaginary currency to buy things instead of having to go out and do all the work necessary to stay alive ourselves.
The sentence "we are the only species that pay to survive" is the most stupid argument one can make for UBI. That's what is upsetting. Maybe UBI is a good idea, maybe not. But this argument is just not convincing, at best, it feels like a joke. What I'm saying is, we will always have to work to survive, no matter what.
I agree that our society are way too individualistic. We don't care about each other anymore. It's as if we don't need society anymore these days. We take a lot of thing that society give us for granted and we don't even realize it.
The scenario they described demonstrably never existed in humanity until hoarding of money and power by individuals became a thing (so feudalism then capitalism).
That's actually not true. Raiding parties for slave labor has existed since neolithic times.
No no no, that can't be true, the root of all evil is capitalism!
What is this history revision bullshit lol ? Read a book sir.