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Background:

I am running a mostly stock flsun Super Racer, which had been running pretty well on Marlin. I was having a few problems with print quality at high speed, and in an attempt to improve this I bought the flsun Speeder Pad, flashed it with stock klipper, and got it all up and running. So far so good.

I have been trying to get rid of an annoying stringing issue that I never really had on Marlin, and the more I try to remedy it, the worse it's getting.

The image is from my latest retraction tower test after re-calibrating pressure advance and rotation_distance. I'm really not sure where to go from here.

Settings from the above test:

  • Esun PLA+
  • 220C (for maximum flow)
  • 1000mm/s acceleration (low for a delta)
  • 0.1mm z-hop on retract
  • Firmware retract control running in test tower mode, 0mm start, 0.1mm factor
  • Pressure advance of 0.236

Upgrades from stock:

  • Lighter hotend housing
  • Deported fans
  • Fan ducts

Any advice is greatly appreciate!

UPDATE: It was the filament. I grabbed a spool of grey from my drying cabinet, and only later (after much hair pulling!) realized it was the budget filament I'd bought to try. Switched it out to some good quality esun PLA+ and the stringing practically vanished! See image for final stringing test.

Final retraction settings: 3.5mm at 35mm/s.

I would like to thank everyone for their help! Lemmy is always the best place to get advice!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Turn off z-hop. When you use zhop the nozzle elevates and it cannot wipe itself. When zhop is off the nozzle wipes itself with the top layer. I know this might be a pre-sliced test but in real life scenario you can make the wall first and the infill last so any minor stringing remaining will be inside the object. As well the obligatory filament drying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for your reply, I will give that a go.

After posting I thought to try a different brand of filament. It's currently printing, so we'll see how it goes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah both new filament and no zhop might help. Also check travel speed, use 100-150 or more to reduce stringing. You said you want higher flow, but lowering temp can help a lot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it was rubbish filament. Switched it out for some esun PLA+ and got much better results. I've updated my post, but final settings are:

Pressure Advance - 0.4 Retraction - 3.5mm Retraction speed - 35mm/s

Very happy with the results!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To get the shitty filament running you can still go for fast travels, 300mm/s@15 to 20k should be fine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I'll try that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a delta printer, z-hop should be much faster than a traditional bed-slinger and leave much less stringing assuming the z speed is set appropriately. Personally, I run z-hop enabled 95% of the time unless I know the objects don’t need it.