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Israel's Defence Minister Yaov Gallant has ordered the complete closure of the Gaza Strip, including a ban on the entry of food, water, fuel or access to electricity as Israel intensifies its bombardment of the besieged Strip in the wake of the surprise attack by the Palestinian resistance. His comments have drawn criticism for advocating collective punishment of Gaza's entire civilian Palestinian population in breach of international law.


Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant ordered an increase in intensity of airstrikes in the Gaza Strip.

Gallant said that the war Israel is fighting against Hamas is “a war for our future.”

He added: “Exacting a heavy price from the enemy is a necessary condition for our existence in the region.”

Gallant makes the comments during a visit to the Israeli Air Force’s underground command centre at the Israeli occupation forces headquarters in Tel Aviv.

link: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231009-israeli-minister-we-are-fighting-human-animals/

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israeli government support the genocide of the Palestinian people. Everyone else are just planning to profit from this.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Every group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Argentina occupied the Falkland Islands, the UK military who fought them weren't described as a terrorist organisation. Not by anyone with an ounce of sense at least, and certainly not by the islanders who's land and homes had been occupied.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every indigenous group that fights an occupying force gets labeled a terrorist organization.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well done, that's less false than your initial comment.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Thanks for testing my thesis.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Hmm, I wonder what the difference might be...

us-foreign-policy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How is the UK not the occupying force there? The Falkland Islands are nowhere fucking near us.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people fighting against a genocidal state are 'bad people'? 'Terrorists', even?

What exactly is wrong about fighting back against one's own genocide? Should they be peacefully protesting it instead?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Oh stop it! There's a literal genocide going on and you feel the need to start handing out these "both sides bad!" "Reminders".

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reminder that everyone in this conflict besides Civilians are bad people.

Shut the fuck up. Every Israeli "civilian" is complicit in the torture of Palestinians, except for children. Not to mention they're all potential combatants anyway.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

The rebels in star wars are terrorists because they killed civilians living in the death star. They're just as bad as the empire.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

There is literally no difference between oppressor and oppressed, you imbecile you, absolute moron.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel: we literally don't consider the people of Gaza to be humans

You: sheesh, I really I can't tell the difference between these two!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*Israel Minister.

And Hamas also thinks jews are no humans, so yes, there is no difference.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel Minister

So... A representative of the Israeli state? The state founded on Zionism? That's not a correction. That is Israel.

Hamas also thinks jews are no humans

Source? Hamas has a history with anti Semitic conspiracy theories and generalizations, but not to the extent of saying Jews aren't human.

Not to mention, even said anti semitism was dropped long ago, when Hamas underwent a radical shift in membership when Israel killed off other PLO groups.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What definition of "terrorist organization" are we using here?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every single liberation group was considered a terrorist organization. Fuck, even Antifa gets called that and they're not even an organization.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you think about hamas killing innocent people, children?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Which children? Did Hamas target children like Israel does, or were they unfortunately caught in cross fire while they were fighting against their genociders?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Aren't the governments made of and supported by civilians?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Reminder that both siders are the biggest status quo supporters of existing horrors. In your case, it happens to be support for Israeli colonisation and genocide since over 80 years. Calling Palestine defenders terrorists means you actively want Israel and USA to win.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

There are non-combatants in this conflict that are bad people. They cheer on the extermination of others. Sometimes that's Hamas or the PLO (they run a fund that gives stipends to families of terrorists). Other times it's certain Israeli Jews who encourage conflict while not risking their own necks because they can claim a religious exemption from military service. They seek an Israel without Palestinian territories, or for that matter Palestinians at all (aka ethnic cleansing).

I'm not saying that non-combatants should be targeted. At the same time, I am saying that just being a civilian does not mean someone lacks blame.