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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.

Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I started with an account on Lemmy.ml and was banned when I argued with the owner/developer, Dessalines, about the Xinjiang genocide being real. I noped out of there very quickly, and you should too. Other users have been banned for questioning the Tiananmen Square massacre.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Wait, what do they think happened at Tienanmen Square then? And do they paint the wiki article about it as "fake news"?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yes, literally. They argue it was a “mostly peaceful” student protest and a few people maybe got killed when they attacked police. They argue the scope and severity has been fabricated by the West, and that there is no evidence of a massacre.

All the usual tinfoil hat stuff you can expect from leftwing authoritarians.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uhhh do they know that the famous tank man photo is just one photo of a series of very violent ones? They were basically power washing tank crushed corpses into gutters.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Arguments range from “tank man was peacefully moved after the photo” to “the photo was staged by the CIA.” It really is as dumb as it sounds, but insular communities have a way of amplifying and reinforcing crazy.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

90% right, but hexbear isn't actually left wing, they just use a few terms as a mask, but all of their views and positions are extremely far right.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

They blame the students for the deaths and that it also never happened.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh wow really? You should link that!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to dig a bit because Dessalines deleted the comments, but I found a screenshot. It references the Xinjiang genocide, not the Tiananmen Square massacre. Other users in the same thread were getting banned for discussing the Tiananmen Square massacre, but my ban was based on my comments about the Xinjiang genocide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He deleted the comments? Can you link to the thread? Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It was many months ago and my account doesn’t show any of the comments anymore. Can you tell me how to locate the thread if my comments have been deleted? The username is in the screenshot.

Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

Surely if he deleted my comments, he deleted all the other critical comments too. I don’t follow your logic.

Edit: I found his comment on the thread. As you can see, my comments have been deleted. Most of the other comments on that thread being critical of Lemmy.ml and Dessalines have also been removed due to “orientalism.” This is what they call “being critical of China.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/post/32859?scrollToComments=true

Found it, some more damning stuff in there about how often the lemmy devs ban shit they disagree with

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just had several comments deleted in a thread about the CCP. They left an anti-American, obvious lie and deleted my calm, factual correction. Then they deleted my comment pointing out it was deleted. They also deleted other people's comments calmly discussing the CCP in a negative light.

FUCK Lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You should post that!

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That it’s real, of course. Why would arguing the inverse get me banned on Lemmy.ml?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Um it’s pretty obvious when we’re discussing tankies what view got him banned.