this post was submitted on 11 Jul 2023
64 points (100.0% liked)

Star Trek

10608 readers
94 users here now

r/startrek: The Next Generation

Star Trek news and discussion. No slash fic...

Maybe a little slash fic.


New to Star Trek and wondering where to start?


Rules

1 Be constructiveAll posts/comments must be thoughtful and balanced.


2 Be welcomingIt is important that everyone from newbies to OG Trekkers feel welcome, no matter their gender, sexual orientation, religion or race.


3 Be truthfulAll posts/comments must be factually accurate and verifiable. We are not a place for gossip, rumors, or manipulative or misleading content.


4 Be niceIf a polite way cannot be found to phrase what it is you want to say, don't say anything at all. Insulting or disparaging remarks about any human being are expressly not allowed.


5 SpoilersUtilize the spoiler system for any and all spoilers relating to the most recently-aired episodes, as well as previews for upcoming episodes. There is no formal spoiler protection for episodes/films after they have been available for approximately one week.


6 Keep on-topicAll submissions must be directly about the Star Trek franchise (the shows, movies, books etc.). Off-topic discussions are welcome at c/quarks.


7 MetaQuestions and concerns about moderator actions should be brought forward via DM.


Upcoming Episodes

Date Episode Title
11-21 LD 5x06 "Of Gods and Angles"
11-28 LD 5x07 "Fully Dilated"
12-05 LD 5x08 "Upper Decks"
12-12 LD 5x09 "Fissue Quest"
12-19 LD 5x10 "The New Next Generation"

Episode Discussion Archive


In Production

Strange New Worlds (2025)

Section 31 (2025-01-24)

Starfleet Academy (TBA)

In Development

Untitled comedy series


Wondering where to stream a series? Check here.


Allied Discord Server


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

There's something about the TNG theme (played during the opening credits) that seems unique and special to my ear. But I don't know about music and orchestral production to make sense of it.

It sounds to me like the mix or maybe arrangement is somewhat unusual, even compared to other TNG era star trek themes. It seems to have a brightness and sheen to its tones that are almost synth like (??) But also the arrangement seems to hit some sweet sci-fi spot, like the way strings and trumpets with oboes/clarinets underneath (??) all mix together? Or is the chords that are played some where?

I don't know, but I've always thought it had a sheen and sparkle that almost sounds like star trek (or at least TNG star trek).

Anyone else notice something similar? Anyone know what's going on?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

All the composers for Star Trek have been incredible in their own right. Everyone has their preferred (James Horner) but I have yet to not enjoy a Star Trek opening. And yes, that includes Enterprise. It tried to break the mold and failed, but I give it a pass because the visual sequence with it gets me still.

I will say that First Contact's theme is damn good. Especially when used at the end with the Vulcan meeting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying you have faith in Star Trek theme songs? Faith in the heart. You're goin' where your heart will take you?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's been a long road getting from there to here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I saw a lot of opinions back in the day about it, and it almost seems like people were offended that they even tried to break the mold at all.

I don't actually mind Faith Of The Heart for the intro. My biggest problem with it is that its not an original song - it was written specifically for a movie that was completely unrelated to Star Trek.
I would probably appreciate it more if they wrote their own song for ENT - it could even be a country/pop song like FOTH, but it would still be a Star Trek song.
They definitely cherry picked the best bits of the song for the intro though. I like their cover more than the original.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It was received very poorly, even tainting reception of the show (which turned out to be appreciated and wanting more, long after it was gone). People just expected a classical sounding instrumental, and it hit wrong. They probably should have test marketed the idea and had some fallbacks. Still, I remember seeing the opening of the first episode and catching the frigate "Enterprize", and thinking this was great regardless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I thought it was weird at first, but actually liked it. I didn't really get the hate - there's plenty of shows I like a lot that I like the theme a lot less and especially today you can easily skip it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IIRC, Faith of the Heart was heir fallback. They wanted Beautiful Day by U2, but couldn't get the license.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Beautiful Day would have been worse, I think.

Mysterious Ways would have been interestingly ironic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah.

Now you have me thinking of other movie songs that might've fit Enterprise, though. For some reason "Don't you forget about me" comes immediately to mind.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, the change on Enterprise being a lyrical song kind of fits because they aren't the Federation yet. It's a prequel. So it has this country tune playing in the intro instead.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not country; rock. Extremely soft rock. It's a cover of a song originally performed by Rod Stewart. For the movie Patch Adams.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Wow. Thanks.

I think I like the Enterprise version different. It's an arrangement that does what the better themes like TNG do, where you start off gentle and build to something more exciting. Not as good to me as TNG, but it accomplishes the task of getting you into the mindset for the show.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And yes, that includes Enterprise

[skip Intro]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I know this is probably going to get me booed, but I actually liked Enterprise's theme. Heck, I can sing along! And I loved the visuals.