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The Grace Hopper Celebration is meant to unite women in tech. This year droves of men came looking for jobs.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not clear from your comment. Are you also accusing the trans women at this conference of lying about their gender?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am accusing the cisgender men at the conference of lying about their gender and I am accusing people in this thread of playing coy about the fact that is trivial for someone who 100% sees themselves as a man to tick F rather than M on a form if that will get them an advantage. Especially if they think being transgender happens on a whim.

If they are transphobic, they even get to discredit actual trans people while they take advantage of an opportunity that wasn't intended for them. It wouldn't be the first time transphobic people pretend to be trans just to cause problems.

You did read my comment, I hope. Do you truly believe there are more transgender women and non-binary people than cisgender women in tech, to the point they would outnumber them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you distinguish between the people who genuinely identify as nonbinary and those who are dishonestly doing it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

identify

See the "problem" with the entire ordeal is this right there, self-identification will always be abusable by people who are willing to lie. There is no solution to that problem I can think of that doesn't piss someone off hard.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am accusing the cisgender men at the conference of lying about their gender

Wait, this is confusing. Cisgender man would mean they identify as men. But if they were lying about their gender.... are you accusing them of secretly being women?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't see how you could misunderstand what I said. If that wasn't clear enough, the part right after that clarifies your question plenty. At this point I think are trying to deliberately create confusion and start an argument.

Oh yeah, and that Right-wing pfp is pretty telling too...

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if they're not transphobic but rather just taking advantage of the less competitive playing field cough cough

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drop the cough and dogwhistles. This is not about trans people and whatever wildly overblown fearmongering you are itching to bring up.

This is about men being smartasses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If they're amab and self identifying as nonbinary, they'd be transgender by definition.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

It's actually about how there is no ability for biological women to police their own spaces anymore.