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Exclusive: Sunak could be presiding over ‘wake’ at conference, warns Prof John Curtice – with voters furious over NHS failures, cost of living, migrants and Liz Truss

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

It fractured a decade ago when they couldn't get a majority and had to get in bed with the popularists by promising a brexit referendum. Something 100% against tory values.

What you have now is not even a tory party. it's an unelected popularist assortment of fifth rank backbenchers who would have been insignificant in the grand scheme of the party.

The real question is what is going to happen to the tory party after they lose. Will they reform as an ultra nationalist fascist party like they have been heading towards? Will they go the gentle opinionless route Labour did and hope that's enough? Just die?🤞

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Even Thatcher’s Tory party was fractured — between so-called wets and dries. It’s inevitable that any broad political party (which you get in a two-party system) will contain extremes.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Hopefully they collapse and Labour split into centrists and lefties. That would be ideal, drag the Overton window over a little.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If they lose, surely the pary splits between moderates and the nutters.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That already happened. The moderates left a long long long time ago

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