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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aren't they just saying that liberals and fascist both defend capitalism and are therefore both against them? Similar but not the same?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No, the comment section makes it much clearer that they think Bernie Sanders is as likely to round them all up and throw them in prison as Trump. There's no nuance to their statements, they think anyone who isn't explicitly a communist or all our socialist will eventually murder communists and socialists.

They've flattened out literally every other ideology except their own as "evil" basically.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

According to their wiki, which is blocked in China, funnily enough--Democracies are actually fascist states!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kind of. The meme follows the way the USA's capitalists co-opted the term liberalism. It's a bit of a mess and supports capitalist lingo

This is one of the cases which implies that the instance registration isn't fool-proof and there're some pro capitalist users messing with them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A liberal economy is a capitalist economy. A capitalist economy allows individuals to freely trade goods and services between each other.

Political commentators in the US try to change the meaning to be any left wing movement. Despite liberal being an appropriate label to groups within both conservative and progressive politicians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A capitalist economy is inherently authoritarian and conservative, stifling liberties and freedoms for most

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What do you mean by inherently authoritarian?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hierarchy of capitalism where holding more money and wealth is authority and power over those who have less.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's in every country though, regardless of its economic system. For Communism, it's just the state that has the authority and power

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't communism stateless though? And vanguard party totalitarian states aren't it.

Anyway, there's an infinite amount of options which aren't capitalist to move on with

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism is meant to be stateless, yeah!

but in practice it has a central authoritarian state.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We don't really know the second sentence. Any central authoritarian state doesn't have communist qualities and such a state can't be trusted on what they claim they are

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then there has never been a communist nation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago