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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don’t need to train a pointer puppy to point. They do it from birth. You don’t need to train a sheep dog to herd. They do it from the moment they can walk. You don’t need to teach a pit bull to latch and shake. They also do that from birth. Training can mitigate the risk, but they’re still very dangerous dogs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Literally every breed with a prey drive does the death shake. And they aren't the only ones with locking jaws either. This is very much a problem of shitty people who like the reputation.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that logic holds true than pure American pitbull terriers should actually be the safest dogs to own in regards to people. Pitbulls where bred for dog fighting, but even more specifically they were bred to not bite the handlers. As getting a dog to fight is just a matter of time and selection, but getting a dog to fight only dogs and not people is something much more difficult and valuable, at the time.

But, that was many, many years ago. And the breed has been bred and bred and inbred and bred again. An American pitbull terrier average weight is about 35 to 60 lbs. Average. 35 is no bigger than an average corgi. With 60 at the high end being a small golden or average chow.

These XL bully breeds aren't pitbulls. Hell, even pitbulls now days aren't pitbulls. They are a mix of staffy, mastiff, American bull dogs, English bulldogs, and random other terriers. And then sold as designer breeds like the American bully with no regard for behavior, temperament, or loyalty.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were trained for fighting. Hard stop.

Just so happens their normal sport was fighting dogs.