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Ministers set to ban single-use vapes in UK over child addiction fears (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Vaping may be a good alternative for a smoker. Some people find them a useful aid in quitting as it's easier to slowly reduce nicotine content.

It's is not contradictory to say vapes are bad. They can be better than cigarettes, but this doesn't make them good.

Vapes are highly palatable. This reduces a barrier to developing a nicotine addiction. So there genuine concern when it comes to young people developing nicotine addictions.

However, the motivation for this ban is due to the waste produced by disposable vapes. The early vapes were reusable so this wasn't an issue. These disposable vapes are responsible for alot of lithium batteries being irresponsibility disposed in the streets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nicotine on it's own isn't particularly addictive. It only becomes highly addictive when combined with the MAO inhibitors found in tobacco, primarily harman and norharman.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Some sources disagree with your claim.

Mayo Clinic

Nicotine dependence occurs when you need nicotine and can't stop using it. Nicotine is the chemical in tobacco that makes it hard to quit. Nicotine produces pleasing effects in your brain, but these effects are temporary. So you reach for another cigarette.

The more you smoke, the more nicotine you need to feel good. When you try to stop, you experience unpleasant mental and physical changes. These are symptoms of nicotine withdrawal.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/nicotine-dependence/symptoms-causes/syc-20351584

Centre for Addition and Public Health

In the past, it was believed that because nicotine does not cause intoxication or impairment, using tobacco was simply a bad habit, not an addiction. Today, nicotine is recognized as the very addictive drug found in tobacco products.

Nicotine dependence (also called tobacco addiction) involves physical and psychological factors that make it difficult to stop using tobacco, even if the person wants to quit.

https://www.camh.ca/en/health-info/mental-illness-and-addiction-index/nicotine-dependence

John Hopkins

Both e-cigarettes and regular cigarettes contain nicotine, which research suggests may be as addictive as heroin and cocaine. What’s worse, says Blaha, many e-cigarette users get even more nicotine than they would from a combustible tobacco product: Users can buy extra-strength cartridges, which have a higher concentration of nicotine, or increase the e-cigarette’s voltage to get a greater hit of the substance.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/5-truths-you-need-to-know-about-vaping

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago

Don't know how many times this keeps having to be said but nicotine is not the part of smoking that is addictive, it's the habit. Nicotine is as addictive as caffeine.

The habit of biting my nails is why I haven't been able to stop for nearly 30 years, nothing else.

It's why pipe and cigar smokers don't chain smoke... because nicotine isn't there to hold them to it.

I agree, ban single use vapes, but acting like kids get addicted to vaping because of nicotine is bullshit. They do it because they think it's cool, just like they did for cigarettes.