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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you pirate their art, I suppose you have a point.

But if you're financially supporting folks who are actively opposed to your existence or the existence of people you care about, that's pretty foolish.

Harry Potter is the only reason folks care about J.K. Rowling. However, her words outside of her books have influenced politics and have hurt marginalized folks.

Because she's making money, she doesn't care.

Until JK doesn't make a dime from Harry Potter, your fandom of the IP will financially support her hateful views.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty sure she'd still have those views, even if she was poor. I understand and respect people who decide to boycott certain creators for their political views and statements--I stopped buying Orson Scott Card's books after finding out things he'd said about homosexuality among other things--but I don't think people who oppose a creator's views, but still choose to pay for their work should be shamed for it. When you pay for a product, you're paying for that product and are thus supporting only what went into that product. I think there's more of an issue of hypocrisy in people who have problems with Apple's labor practices in China or their anti-consumer practices, but still buy their products, as those issues are directly linked to said products and therefore their money is inherently rewarding them (but, full disclosure: I'm one of those people, as I own an iPhone). If the Harry Potter books had some anti-trans message in them, that'd be one thing, but I don't think that's the case, is it (I honestly don't know, as I haven't read them)? I think people can still enjoy and financially support the HP IP without tacitly supporting JK Rowling's politics, just as Tesla owners can enjoy their cars without supporting Elon's whacky political views.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

--I stopped buying Orson Scott Card's books after finding out things he'd said

I stopped buying new copies of his stuff.

But to my mind, buying used doesn't add support to him nor add to his wealth.

On the other hand, I stopped reading Dilbert because it became unfunny, not because Adams turned out to be a shitty person.

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I am reminded of people in my parents generation who stopped listening to certain musicians because they were rumored to be gay...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

(I honestly don’t know, as I haven’t read them)

No anti-LGBTIQ content in those books whatsoever. If they did have such a message, then I could understand people hating the author and the books, but as it is, the books do not reflect the world view of the author about this particular topic.

...and on the topic of supporting the author by buying the books (from a different comment); you can buy them secondhand. That way Rowling makes one less sale as secondhand shops, private sellers etc. don't have to pay royalties to her.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok? So what If you already bought and read the books, does that mean you'll have to throw them away, burn them, and you're never ever allowed to enjoy the fictional story of Harry Potter ever again because the author is an ass....? Or that by liking the fictional story you automatically support her world view as well, finances aside?

It's the exact thing I described. Yes J.K. Rowling is nuts but that does not mean that you have to hate the Harry Potter books / movies. You can hate the author for what she did and said independendly from the stories she wrote.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Keep the books, cherish 'em. I don't care.

I'm just saying knowingly giving money to hateful people is where folks tend to draw the line. Some folks can still enjoy the art, some folks have their perception of the art tainted by the hateful ideologies of the artist.

You're free to do as you wish, but some folks have trouble separating the art from the artist, and have valid concerns around consuming of art from hateful artists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always hated those books when I was a kid before any of the shit about JK came to light - and its cause she's a fucking hack.

Troll, the film from 1986 is a story about Harry Potter and the Potter family where he ends up training along side a witch to defeat evil.

She's a hack and her story blows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Completely fine with me. shrugs ... in that case you don't like the creation because it's not your cup of tea, and that the author also happens to be an ass is a separate issue. Dfferent people, different preferences.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To me, she was awful for ripping someone off and then the icing on the shit cake is that she's a terf as well.

So I feel very validated in knowing that I was always right about what a piece of absolute trash she is. And always was. Don't know why anyone would want to read some rip off hack book lol