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A draft law banning speech and dressing "detrimental to the spirit of Chinese people" has sparked debate in China.

If the law comes into force, people found guilty could be fined or jailed but the proposal does not yet spell out what constitutes a violation.

Social media users and legal experts have called for more clarity to avoid excessive enforcement.

China recently released a swathe of proposed changes to its public security laws - the first reforms in decades.

The clothing law has drawn immediate reaction from the public - with many online criticising it as excessive and absurd.

The contentious clauses suggest that people who wear or force others to wear clothing and symbols that "undermine the spirit or hurt the feelings of the Chinese nation" could be detained for up to 15 days and fined up to 5,000 yuan ($680; £550).

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The French didn't ban for only one group of people, all religions are affected.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It targeted one group of people though.

Either way banning clothes is stupid.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Other groups of people have been affected in the past. The Muslims are just the current latest group affected by it.

Either way banning clothes is stupid.

They have pretty sound logic for doing it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Other groups of people have been affected in the past. The Muslims are just the current latest group affected by it.

Any recent examples?

They have pretty sound logic for doing it

What's the logic?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm French and if you believe that they got you good

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been to France many times and religion isn't banned at all, France is an incredibly diverse country, probably the most in all of Europe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nobody suggested they "ban religion"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes you are, that's what you people are all implying and it's completely false

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

can you explain who "you people" are? are they in the room with us right now?

can you also give the specific quote where "you people" said france bans all religion? you didnt just, y'know, imagine it did you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"are they in the room with us right now?"

I'm conversing with you in this thread, unless you don't exist? Is that what you're saying? lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

so obviously you can give the specific quote where i said france bans all religion then

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We're talking about the schools, specifically

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah this is equality vs equity. If your religion has no religious outfits it doesn't impact you if your religion does it does impact you. You can't make a rule that only impacts one minority group and claim that it is fair because it hurts everyone the same way, since it clearly doesn't.