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A draft law banning speech and dressing "detrimental to the spirit of Chinese people" has sparked debate in China.

If the law comes into force, people found guilty could be fined or jailed but the proposal does not yet spell out what constitutes a violation.

Social media users and legal experts have called for more clarity to avoid excessive enforcement.

China recently released a swathe of proposed changes to its public security laws - the first reforms in decades.

The clothing law has drawn immediate reaction from the public - with many online criticising it as excessive and absurd.

The contentious clauses suggest that people who wear or force others to wear clothing and symbols that "undermine the spirit or hurt the feelings of the Chinese nation" could be detained for up to 15 days and fined up to 5,000 yuan ($680; £550).

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm unable to find the original Chinese, but couldn't "hurt national feelings" just as well be translated as "do emotional damage"? Like walking around London 1997 with a shirt that said "Princess Di deserved to die"? Now while that aint illegal in the UK (as far as I know) it's at least a little less ridiculous to talk about trauma from events that affect a nation rather than this dismissive right-wing language of "hurt national feelings".

(this is not a pro-CCP comment please give me the benefit of the doubt)

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago

"hurting the feelings of the Chinese people" is a phrase commonly used by the ccp that means anything that goes against our narrative. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurting_the_feelings_of_the_Chinese_people?useskin=vector

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

wow i had no idea thank you for the context

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

wearing a t-shirt saying an actual valued member of the royal family deserved to die likely would get you arrested in the UK, regardless of the legality of it

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

No it wouldn't, don't be ridiculous. Yes there was some heavy handed policing around the queen's funeral and the coronation which was pretty disgusting, but no-one is being arrested for just wearing an anti-royal tee shirt. Hell it was 50 years ago when the sex pistols were calling the monarchy a "Fascist regime" and they weren't arrested for that.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes? I said that the policing was over the top at those two times and that it was despicable. Doesnt change the fact that other than those once in a generation events you would not be arrested for it.

[-] ThrowawayInTheYear23 2 points 1 year ago

Vive la révolution

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