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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That was the argument people made for Hillary's certain victory on Election Day, that the notion of Trump being elected would mean a huge Democratic turnout.

Thing is, people aren't going to give a shit who the candidate of change is when they can't afford their grocery bills, and Trump isn't going to have to lie about how little Biden has done to alleviate people's poverty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't vote when it was Hillary or Tbag. I hated both. But I'll keep voting to protect against him happening again. It's exactly what the dems are counting on, and it's unfortunately working on me.

Still waiting to see who I'll vote for in primaries, though. My vote only counts there in my state.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what was your hatred of Hillary based on out of curiosity?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I recall that she supported some regulation of the internet that I considered harmful. I can't recall the specifics anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I ask because the republicans viewed her as a threat from the time she was first lady (she wanted universal healthcare - which she almost got, but the rightwing defeated her by talking about a republican vision/plan for an individual mandate, which was basically obamacare, she talked about women's rights, she was pulling her husband to the left on some issues, etc). They knew she had the type of balls to run for president and the Hillary hate propaganda machine has been running strong for over 20+ years, because they were scared she would win. That's why I'm wondering what got you to hate her - what tactic of their hate machine do you think worked on you?

Edit - and I hope you understand conservatives would destroy the internet as it is, and they have been trying

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It wasn't any tactic they used. I read an article where she talked about policy she wanted implemented during her first term that I thought showed a basic misunderstanding of the internet. Unfortunately, I can't remember what it was to share. But I didn't think Trump stood any chance of winning so I withheld my vote and have regretted that ever since.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's good to vote, for sure.

I'll be voting Green myself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A green vote is no different than a Trump vote

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying it won't be close. My parents who voted for him complain about how often they get asked to donate to his campaign slash legal fund. I don't think that's a great look if it's about grocery money.

I remember 2016. Bernie bros felt maybe rightfully so that he got shafted in the primary. Many didn't turn out. Trump as obvious of a con man as he was to us, was a successful business man to many centrist voters. I think that illusion has mostly faded. On top of that people on the right were programmed to hate Hillary since the 90s. The vitriol for Trump now is the best shot Biden has, and I think it's enough.