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is Conservative/Right Wing opinions completely unwelcome on Lemmy? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I don't have much of a problem either way as I don't think I'll be engaging in political discussion on this website past this post but it seems like any sort of non-left wing opinions or posts are immediately trashed on here. That's fine. There's clearly a more liberal audience here and that's okay. I just don't want Lemmy to become a echo chamber for any side and it seems to be that way when it comes to politics already.

Mostly making this post just to drum up discussion as I'm new here.

Edit: Thanks for the rational replies. I was expecting to get lit up for even mentioning this topic lol.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have yet to see a modern conservative position that is more backed by real world evidence than whatever more progressive position it opposes.

Climate change? Denying overwhelming scientific consensus. Gun control? "It doesn't work", even though it works in every other western country. Healthcare? "But the death panels will decide if you get to live", they don't exist, and are used as pretense to ignore all those people who die because they can't afford treatment. Car infrastructure? It's literally better for drivers if more people are using transit or cycling. Student loans? I don't even know what the argument is here except "I had to pay them so everyone else should too". The money certainly isn't going towards the teachers.

Some of these are US specific, but the sentiment is the same everywhere. The list goes on and on. If someone refuses to listen to any reason or evidence and instead bases their worldview on only their own, limited lived experience, why shouldn't they be characterized as a moron? And if they understand that their view isn't based in reality and they hold it anyways, why not call that actively malicious?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've always loved the irony of the argument that if the government pays for healthcare, there will be "death panels" that decide who gets treatment and who doesn't. Because those already exist under and directly because of a system of private healthcare funding where if you don't have enough money, you're refused treatment. Meanwhile under a system of public healthcare funding, people get treatment based on who's most in need of the resources available, and that's only if the system is already over capacity.